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Everyone is missin my point. I could care less if u NEED your diesel or not. Its life do what u want see if i care. I made the post with all the info to prove to ppl that say it is stupid to have a 3/4 or 1 Ton truck with a gas engine. It aint stupid... The reason i drive a gas truck is because i do not need a diesel. Y spend the extra money for a diesel when i do not need it? I dont pull a heavy load enough... Now, am i stupid for drivin a gas truck. Nope sounds pretty smart to me. This is the reason i made the post with all the info. To prove that it costs more to own a diesel. Nothin else. Yea most diesels will outpull a v10... so what? Is that what this whole thread is about? I was under the impression it was v10 vs PSD.

 

I just sold my 2005 6.0 King Ranch 4x4 Crew Cab, with no nick or dings. All the maintenance was done before it was needed. Guess why,,, It was a lemon that thing was in the shop more then it was towing. Every Person that I talk to in person has had MAJOR repairs on their 6.0. I spend a lot of time talking to people that tow their trailers around in RV parks. I have found few people that have lemon lawed them and gotten another 6.0 and have lemon lawed that one. I simple can never every recommend a 6.0.

I just made a long distance trip with 6.8 GAS super duty from California to Idaho. The trip was 1100 miles one way towing a 10K trailer and a 850 CC X ATV, 2 Dogs, and 3 People. I went the back way and pulled heavy grades, my final millage for the trip was 7.9. The truck did this in 16 hours, the only stop were for Fuel, Food and a **** breaks. That GAS truck towed well and never max out its speed on the hills . So a 6.8 CAN and Does Tow, and does it well. No it not as nice as a New Diesel with 800 FPT. But I don't have a DPF, EGR, DEF, TURBO, Head Gaskets that blow, or a FCIM that can fail. Diesel is great if you use them to work hard everday, and have the money and the time to keep them it tip top shape, otherwise it just does not pay. This is only for somepeople if I had a boat load of money and no bills to pay I would to have the new 6.7 diesel. I would just get one every 3 years.

By the way 6.0 caused
Class action law suite for being a lemmon
Caused Ford to SUE IH
Caused Ford to Drop IH and develop thier own Diesel engine.

Donovan
F250 KR CC SB 6.0
F250 KR CC LB 6.8

 

You need to crack open a beer, pop some popcorn, and read a hundred pages or so. Lol there is a contingent on here that says the 3v v10 will outpull a 6.0 or 6.4 because it has more horsepower, despite every test saying the opposite.

Just giving some background on the jist of the thread. Haha

 

Thanks for the help fellas. Glad to see that there are still some people out there that r pickin up what im layin down....

 

Yeah, what I personally find funny is every diesel guy on here cedes maintenance costs and reliability. But the vast majority of v10 guys say the 2v V10 outpulls the 7.3 and the 3v V10 outpulls the 6.0 and 6.4.

Basically we all agree the v10 can work and pull with a PSD, or close to it. But not as easy or as fast (talking about mountain passes, at elevation). I am one of those that some people here would laugh at, where I need a diesel 5 times a year to pull a toy hauler to the dunes. But I do it at elevation and when I tow, I pay the premium to drive 250 miles on a tank at 70 to 75 mph. I have used a gas engine and I totally prefer the diesel.

Some on here would defend the gas and say it will do that too. But they forget the range, my gas engine with my toy hauler would go 150-170 miles a tank. It was the Chevy 6.0, not the v10. My father in laws 2v v10 was about the same, at the same speed and similar weight.

 

I saw we end this! Take a 3 valve 6.8 stock. and stock 6.0 and hook em bumper to bumper and watch parts fly!!!!!

 

Shoot man, it seems nobody on here is within 10 hours of each other. Haha, you have no idea how many times I have said we need a pull off (though I am thinking more like load each with a 12k trailer and pull in some mountains).

 

That would work too, but bumper to bumper would be more exciting, as long as my truck aint involved! LMAO

 

Definitely! Where you located?

 

I'm new on here but I think that the best motor made for full size fords is the 460 they have more all around performance than the v-10 and psd. Iknow people with the v-10 and psd and I have the 460 and it gets better mpg's than the v-10 and psd plus has more tq. And the funny thing is all three trucks only have exhaust and mine is the 460 with a 4 inch lift sitting on 37's with stock 4.10 gears and still get better mpg's than the v-10 and psd so my vote is to bring back the 460 period.

 

"Bud" your missing the whole point. I don't have to work on a 6.0 engine to call service departments and ask about claims. There's a world of knowledge to be found using google and other search engines. I haven't worked on the 1st 6.0. You came in here pushing $80 oil changes to sell the idea of a gasser over a diesel. Instead of jumping in on pg 618 read the other 617 like the rest of us. We know all about the 6.0. I do my own maintance and it cost me less than $60 just like most others on here. I know what the maintance consist of my diesel and gasser.
Hooking the trucks bumper to bumper don't prove anything. You have so many varibles like tires, weight, gearing, or even human stupity. Now I'm up for a good ol tug of war match or hauling trailers. That's right up my alley.

 

Above you said it cost you less than $60 for an oil change doing it yourself.
It cost me $22 for an oil change doing it myself.

The difference between yours and mine less than $38.

FordMstrTech said:
V10
oil change: Total: $31 filter= $4.75 oil= $3.75x7

6.0L PSD
oil change: Total: $71 filter= $14.75 oil= $3.75x15

The difference between yours and mine using his numbers is $40

The $38 difference using our numbers is pretty close to the $40 difference using his numbers.

So I have to ask why do you keep focusing on the actual dollar amount of 80 for a 6.0l oil change? Isn't the price difference the thing that matters?

 

I think FordMstrTech does a pretty good job at making his point. I drive diesels. And I'm not offended by anything he has said yet. For me, it was a question of "want" not a question of "need" when I bought my 02. The 97 though, I wanted a diesel for the mileage, since I put on the miles.

 

I somehow doubt your 460 makes more power than a V10 or PSD with just exhaust, you are 123 HP and 47 ft pounds short of a V10.

Whats your fuel mileage?