Gas vs PSD
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Na, more like 6 or so hrs. I'm in nw alabama. I picked pigion forge cause I thought I read he pulled near there or something. Pigion forge is at the bottem of the hill from williams burg and that's a pretty good hill to pull on and its curvy. And in jan. I'm going to be in chatt. Me and my wife was already talking about riding up to williamsburg.
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Na, more like 6 or so hrs. I'm in nw alabama. I picked pigion forge cause I thought I read he pulled near there or something. Pigion forge is at the bottem of the hill from williams burg and that's a pretty good hill to pull on and its curvy. And in jan. I'm going to be in chatt. Me and my wife was already talking about riding up to williamsburg.
On a side note, I am in raton, nm at 6,500 ft in elevation and just saw a 5.4 in a 250. It was a contractor's rig and looked fairly used. Not a clue if it was local, did not check the plates.
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His 6.0 has more hp, more engine tq, better tranny gearing and equal rear end gearing. My only advantage will be off the line. I don't expect to win any comparison we do other than off the line stuff, which should be really close. My main goal is to show the advantage of gearing getting a load moving and show that the 5.4 is not going to be struggling at 4,500 rpm and 25 mph and getting 5 mpg like most on the psd side like to claim.
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And its not going to fit in your bed. Lmao. I can't wait I hope its something we can do. That's just the beauty of my truck. It gets a load going. I'm not fast or fancy. Just an ol' dog pulling. Please be kind and run off and leave me I only drive 55.
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Ah, makes sense. LOL I was just excited someone with a 6.0 was close to Josh and his magical 5.4 haha
On a side note, I am in raton, nm at 6,500 ft in elevation and just saw a 5.4 in a 250. It was a contractor's rig and looked fairly used. Not a clue if it was local, did not check the plates.
On a side note, I am in raton, nm at 6,500 ft in elevation and just saw a 5.4 in a 250. It was a contractor's rig and looked fairly used. Not a clue if it was local, did not check the plates.
My brother just took out for Minnesota for a soybean head. He's trying to wear his truck out. He loves the 6.0 in it. That Amerilo is niiice. I wanted to go but I 8 more barges to load before sat.
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His 6.0 has more hp, more engine tq, better tranny gearing and equal rear end gearing. My only advantage will be off the line. I don't expect to win any comparison we do other than off the line stuff, which should be really close. My main goal is to show the advantage of gearing getting a load moving and show that the 5.4 is not going to be struggling at 4,500 rpm and 25 mph and getting 5 mpg like most on the psd side like to claim.
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That's new mexico right? I didn't know new mexico that far up in the air. Here again I don't even know my elevation. I'm from flamingo Fla and hell we're -1'. Lol. Surely that's not your 1st SD w/ a 5.4 you've seen. There good engines I loved mine. I wouldn't want to do what I do now with one.
My brother just took out for Minnesota for a soybean head. He's trying to wear his truck out. He loves the 6.0 in it. That Amerilo is niiice. I wanted to go but I 8 more barges to load before sat.
My brother just took out for Minnesota for a soybean head. He's trying to wear his truck out. He loves the 6.0 in it. That Amerilo is niiice. I wanted to go but I 8 more barges to load before sat.
I was just pointing out that you can run across a gas engine at high altitude.
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Which again means, for me, that my V10 is just perfect 
It's too bad that many people can't stand in another person's shoes and see that their choice is right for THEM.
I mean seriously, most of your argument has been based on altitude. No one is trying to convince you to buy a gasser. Conversely, you shouldn't be saying the V10 is so bad based on your altitude, when other people don't live up where the oxygen is so thin that it effects your thinking
It's too bad that many people can't stand in another person's shoes and see that their choice is right for THEM.
I mean seriously, most of your argument has been based on altitude. No one is trying to convince you to buy a gasser. Conversely, you shouldn't be saying the V10 is so bad based on your altitude, when other people don't live up where the oxygen is so thin that it effects your thinking
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Which again means, for me, that my V10 is just perfect I agree, and if I lived down below 3000' I'd probably have a gasser even though I love the low RPM's, better mileage, and low-end torque of a diesel.
It's too bad that many people can't stand in another person's shoes and see that their choice is right for THEM. I feel the same way.
I mean seriously, most of your argument has been based on altitude. Nope; my argument has been arguing that I'm AT altitude and people fail to realize that. No one is trying to convince you to buy a gasser. Defensive much? I said if I lived below 3000' I'd probably have a gasser. I've said it at LEAST 30 times. Conversely, you shouldn't be saying the V10 is so bad based on your altitude, when other people don't live up where the oxygen is so thin that it effects your thinking
I agree, and if I lived down below 3000' I'd probably have a gasser even though I love the low RPM's, better mileage, and low-end torque of a diesel.It's too bad that many people can't stand in another person's shoes and see that their choice is right for THEM. I feel the same way.
I mean seriously, most of your argument has been based on altitude. Nope; my argument has been arguing that I'm AT altitude and people fail to realize that. No one is trying to convince you to buy a gasser. Defensive much? I said if I lived below 3000' I'd probably have a gasser. I've said it at LEAST 30 times. Conversely, you shouldn't be saying the V10 is so bad based on your altitude, when other people don't live up where the oxygen is so thin that it effects your thinking
Have a great day.
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Sorry please excuse my ignorance. How does a 19k gcw get you over your gvwr? I overload my gcwr but still in my gvwr. Have I missed something? It doent happen much cause of my tool box. I'm mt {my defination} and still over my gvwr lol. I'm glad cause 1 tractor and your truck would have you at a gross of 12k-13k w/ out a trailer
And its not going to fit in your bed. Lmao. I can't wait I hope its something we can do. That's just the beauty of my truck. It gets a load going. I'm not fast or fancy. Just an ol' dog pulling. Please be kind and run off and leave me I only drive 55.
And its not going to fit in your bed. Lmao. I can't wait I hope its something we can do. That's just the beauty of my truck. It gets a load going. I'm not fast or fancy. Just an ol' dog pulling. Please be kind and run off and leave me I only drive 55.
I hope we can do this too. I have nothing bad to say about how a 6.0 gets a load moving or pulls a load. I am just saying that a 5.4 with a manual and 4.10 will get a load moving just as good, if not better. 97% of sd's came with an auto and about 80% came with a psd, so there are probably only about 1% of the trucks out there with my set up. Which means the majority of people arguing against me have never even driven one. I think you are going to be really surprised if we can get together.
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Which again means, for me, that my V10 is just perfect
It's too bad that many people can't stand in another person's shoes and see that their choice is right for THEM.
I mean seriously, most of your argument has been based on altitude. No one is trying to convince you to buy a gasser. Conversely, you shouldn't be saying the V10 is so bad based on your altitude, when other people don't live up where the oxygen is so thin that it effects your thinking
It's too bad that many people can't stand in another person's shoes and see that their choice is right for THEM.
I mean seriously, most of your argument has been based on altitude. No one is trying to convince you to buy a gasser. Conversely, you shouldn't be saying the V10 is so bad based on your altitude, when other people don't live up where the oxygen is so thin that it effects your thinking
What's wrong w/ making an altitude argument? Yall argue rpms and hp. Its as if we have no say in this conversation. No matter what we say its wrong or isn't important. But what yall is God's gospel and that's how it is. So ironic that the diesel owners will show the v10 owners but the v10 say you have to come to them.
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If we do this, and he is agreeable to it, I would like part of the comparison to include about 40-50 miles of mixed driving(city, highway, interstate) so we can do a mpg comparison too.
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I don't know anything about the mileage on the 6.0, but I'd be interested in the results. I was getting 14-15 in my F150 with the 5.4. I'd get 15.4 at 65mph. Part of that is the altitude as I've seen higher numbers from 5.4 owners elsewhere. That's why I'm content (notice I didn't say happy) with my 18-20mpg in the 6.4 on the highway. Around town sucks, but my 5.4 got 13 in the city too.