Only if it makes more power.
Torque can be made through gearing.
The amount of HP you have is just what you have. Gearing can not fix that.

 

Blindly? Go to Ford - Cars, SUVs, Trucks & Crossovers | Ford Vehicles and select the Diesel option on any SD and see how much of an increase you end up with.

Ball joints are not covered under warranty by ford, nor are other wear items such as brakes and tires.... Don't know who told you that but it sounds like the dealer lied to you to sell you an over priced service contract.

You paid 6-8k more for it so of course it will sell for 6-8k more when you sell it. What part of that do you not understand? Its quite simple. You got your '09 6.4L for 30k because Ford wanted to dump them all. The 6.4 isn't much of a "performer" when it comes to MPG and other aspects. The Difference is quite staggering from the first trucks sold to the last years of production of the 6.4. More than $20k off the msrp. Sounds like a "fire sale" if I ever saw one. Almost like they wanted to clean house before the good PSD came out.

I have been ripped off, on a diesel vehicle ('04 6.0 PSD) that couldn't make it to its first scheduled maintenance without an engine change (two to be exact, in under 28k). As far as I'm concerned, newer diesels aren't worth the purchase price considering the maintenance and amount of problems involved.

 

As I said before, you must have got ripped off, and assume everyone with a diesel is in the same boat as you are/were. We're not.

 

But if you have to make up toque through gearing multiplication, you're going to sacrifice something...longevity and mileage come to mind...

 

Mileage yes. Longevity, not at all.

 

Your above statement is certainly accurate.

Gas engines need the gear multiplication to get more torque, subsequently, they use more rpms= more fuel.

On the longevity remark: No, longevity is not compromised because the gas engine is designed to run at higher rpms. BUT, it still will not last as long as a diesel.

From day one gassers have turned more rpms, used more fuel, and not lasted as long compared to their diesel counterparts.

 

Pickup Reaches Million-Mile Mark in Four Years | NBC Miami

Oh, another modular engine with over a million miles? You don't say...

 

Yes you are. Wait until your wonderful "service contract" runs out and you actually have to pay for something.


Blindly? Go to Ford - Cars, SUVs, Trucks & Crossovers | Ford Vehicles and select the Diesel option on any SD and see how much of an increase you end up with. I don't need to; I know the price difference. I also know what it will be worth when I sell it.Do you really? What do you think the $20k discount that ford was giving on 6.4 PSDs is going to do with your resale value? Besides that, I was comparing the prices between the 6.4 and the V10. It's almost like you are trying to convince yourself of the worth of your purchase.

Ball joints are not covered under warranty by ford, nor are other wear items such as brakes and tires.... Don't know who told you that but it sounds like the dealer lied to you to sell you an over priced service contract. No kidding they aren't covered under Ford, but they are covered under my FREE maintenance contract. Knowing people is a good thing, but you seem to prefer ranting on a vehicle you go ripped off on.WTF are you ranting about? Settle down child.

You paid 6-8k more for it so of course it will sell for 6-8k more when you sell it. What part of that do you not understand? You're the one who doesn't seem to understand that, or you wouldn't have started off with the comment about it costing more. Again, WTF are you talking about? I fully understand that you paid more for your diesel and fully understand that you will get more for trade in or resale.... What the hell are you arguing? Its quite simple. You got your '09 6.4L for 30k because Ford wanted to dump them all. I got it because it was such a good deal. The 6.4 isn't much of a "performer" when it comes to MPG and other aspects. If you buy ANY truck for MPG's, you're making a mistake. The Difference is quite staggering from the first trucks sold to the last years of production of the 6.4. More than $20k off the msrp. Sounds like a "fire sale" if I ever saw one. Almost like they wanted to clean house before the good PSD came out. I wouldn't pay MSRP for any vehicle. Period.Good for you, but what are you commenting on? That isn't much of a comment for the statement I made. Almost as if you didn't even read it.

I have been ripped off, on a diesel vehicle ('04 6.0 PSD) that couldn't make it to its first scheduled maintenance without an engine change (two to be exact, in under 28k). As far as I'm concerned, newer diesels aren't worth the purchase price considering the maintenance and amount of problems involved.

 

There's no way that factory/stock SD with a 5.4L is going to get 20k+ moving faster than my 6.0l. Now damn it I love the 5.4 or I wouldnr be buying my wifes. It'll have to be after the new year but I'd be willing to meet you in pigion forge and give you a chance to back that up.
I'm not that smart, but I work around a lot of trucks. I have a good idea of what they do and don't. On top of that I know how to work my truck. I'm not saying you can build that truck to out pull me. Not from the factory though. I sat right where you do once apoun a time. I thought that nothing could touch my 5.4. It could do it all. Well it can just not as good on somethings.. I'm running 4:10 gears BTW. If you out pull me I have no problem comeing right here and saying so. I'll make no excuses what so ever. We agree to the terms beforehand and it lays where lies. I won't care if I'm alittle heavier either. I believe in paying for my education so I'll help ya out on your expenes if you do out pull me.

 

You're clueless...and it shows. Enjoy your stay here.

 

You are forgetting that my 5.4 has a manual tranny and the low 1st gear. It is nothing like an automatic 5.4. I make no claims that my truck will out pull yours in any gear but 1st. From a rolling start to about 20-25 mph I guarantee it will surprise you with what it will pull with. If you want to get together I would be more than happy to, but it would have to be in Kingsport. I am between jobs right now and won't start my new job for another 2 months. My truck is only rated to tow 12k before it exceeds the gvwr, so I am game for anything up to that weight. Just pm me if you are planning on being in the area and we can get it together. There are several good hills here we can pull on.

 

Sounds good to me. I don't know where kingsport is.
I ve never done a rolling test. I dont call that a test of getting a load rolling if its already rolling. We can't start from a dead stop?

 

If you are at the Pigeon Forge exit Kingsport is about an hour east of there. By rolling start I mean about a 2 mph start. That eliminates the driver aspect when comparing a manual vs auto and is slow enough to be the same as a dead stop.

 

Nah nah nah, I call shenanigans. It either out pulls, or it does not. Out pulling in one gear only is not a comparison. That granny gear will get a whole boat load moving, but that long throw from granny to 1st is a real beyotch and no way on gods earth are you going to outshift his auto.

You want the rolling start because you know his auto is step on the gas and go and a manual shift is not. It doesn't eliminate the "driver aspect", it eliminates the disadvantage of a manual vs an auto. Compare the trucks, or not, but don't try to stack the deck to give you a better chance.

 

This goes on and on....
I've owned 4 PSD's and two 6.8's. I'm driving a 2010 F350 6.8 now simply because it was the best choice for my needs.
Your needs may differ and that's whats great about being able to make your own decisions....