Gas vs PSD
Cargo Master
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Good point but no its not what matters. He's putting off he's a Tech. He's arguement is that a psd cost $80 to change the oil. For number crunchers $20 is a lot of money. Matter of fact 2 oil chances pays for my fuelfilters. I along w/ everyother psd owner know our maintance cost more. My point is it doesn't have to cost you as much. I don't ever add this to my arguements I will though this 1 time. I have shopped and bought ahead and had under $40 oil changes. It can be done. There's people that are on the fence about weither to buy a psd or v10. If a person falls on the page where a "tech" appears to be saying this or that. It appears to be true cause the "tech" in their eyes adds weight. He also states that after 05 sees worse claims than the earlier. We all know better. So now how is some that doesn't know anything suppose to make heads or tails of all this?
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From: Spokane, WA
Good point but no its not what matters. He's putting off he's a Tech. He's arguement is that a psd cost $80 to change the oil. For number crunchers $20 is a lot of money. Matter of fact 2 oil chances pays for my fuelfilters. I along w/ everyother psd owner know our maintance cost more. My point is it doesn't have to cost you as much. I don't ever add this to my arguements I will though this 1 time. I have shopped and bought ahead and had under $40 oil changes. It can be done. There's people that are on the fence about weither to buy a psd or v10. If a person falls on the page where a "tech" appears to be saying this or that. It appears to be true cause the "tech" in their eyes adds weight. He also states that after 05 sees worse claims than the earlier. We all know better. So now how is some that doesn't know anything suppose to make heads or tails of all this?
And I do mine with synthetic for $80.
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From: Isanti, MN
Wasting money is wasting money, it doesn't matter how much you have or make. I can afford my truck because I don't waste money on $80 oil changes if it's not neccessary.
An oil change on my '11 should cost me around $50.
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From: Spokane, WA
I just dropped $49K for a truck three months ago. And I worry about $80 oil changes!
Wasting money is wasting money, it doesn't matter how much you have or make. I can afford my truck because I don't waste money on $80 oil changes if it's not neccessary.
An oil change on my '11 should cost me around $50.
Wasting money is wasting money, it doesn't matter how much you have or make. I can afford my truck because I don't waste money on $80 oil changes if it's not neccessary.
An oil change on my '11 should cost me around $50.
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I get about 10 MPG if im lucky, but that is with 10k lb. on it. I can push mid 20's empty, ridding at the speed limit between here and Roanoke Va (55mph average at 1500 RPM)
Hopping to up tha loaded MPG with an upgrade to the trans (ZF5 and a brownie aux.) soon.
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From: McKenzie River
I dont know about the HP, but I make 552 ft/lb with my 460.
I get about 10 MPG if im lucky, but that is with 10k lb. on it. I can push mid 20's empty, ridding at the speed limit between here and Roanoke Va (55mph average at 1500 RPM)
Hopping to up tha loaded MPG with an upgrade to the trans (ZF5 and a brownie aux.) soon.
I get about 10 MPG if im lucky, but that is with 10k lb. on it. I can push mid 20's empty, ridding at the speed limit between here and Roanoke Va (55mph average at 1500 RPM)
Hopping to up tha loaded MPG with an upgrade to the trans (ZF5 and a brownie aux.) soon.
Or sell it to Ford, it will set the auto industry on its ear, and make you a billionaire!
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From: Spokane, WA
You know, the instant mpg on the dash going downhill with the wind at your back doesn't mean anything right? Haha
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I figure it at the pump with the total gas bought and the miles on the trip.
miles/gallons=MPG.
for example: If i bought 20 gallons and had driven 100 miles, 100/20=5, so I would be averaging 5 miles per gallon, or MPG.
miles/gallons=MPG.
for example: If i bought 20 gallons and had driven 100 miles, 100/20=5, so I would be averaging 5 miles per gallon, or MPG.
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your E4OD is a 4 speed. I think that the OD is like .73 ratio. Assuming on the other guy has a auto 3 or T series 4 speed has a 1.0 final. The ZF has a .76. Either way that is more than double the ratio I have with my T19 and the Aux. Trans. It comes to .35. Also, you probably have deeper ratios in your axle. That also takes away from your MPGs.
As for that 350, It is in a 2500 with a NV4500 so the final after the Aux. Trans. is .26 with 3.55 gears. So, that equates to a .94 ratio in 5th gear and top in the aux when combined with the rear end ratio.
As for that 350, It is in a 2500 with a NV4500 so the final after the Aux. Trans. is .26 with 3.55 gears. So, that equates to a .94 ratio in 5th gear and top in the aux when combined with the rear end ratio.
Cargo Master
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Why? Here lately everone has covered their butts and haven't made the mistakes of letting us psd owners in on their filter deals. But you can still find filters and oil on sale. Its cheaper to buy oil in 5gals. So most of the time my oil change cost me $58. 2 oil changes makes a savings of $44. That's my fuelfilters for free. It gets tiresome of these guys comeing in here gonna tell us how much it cost us to change our oil. Maybe you don't but I know where every cent goes on my truck. I have a bottom line that I have to make pan out. I can't control how cattle or fuel prices does, but I can control how much money is wasted in either of them. Now $80 on synthic oil is a different thing. That oil cost more.
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From: Spokane, WA
Why? Here lately everone has covered their butts and haven't made the mistakes of letting us psd owners in on their filter deals. But you can still find filters and oil on sale. Its cheaper to buy oil in 5gals. So most of the time my oil change cost me $58. 2 oil changes makes a savings of $44. That's my fuelfilters for free. It gets tiresome of these guys comeing in here gonna tell us how much it cost us to change our oil. Maybe you don't but I know where every cent goes on my truck. I have a bottom line that I have to make pan out. I can't control how cattle or fuel prices does, but I can control how much money is wasted in either of them. Now $80 on synthic oil is a different thing. That oil cost more.
There are way more important things a person should make in the decision, such as:
Fuel cost difference in their location
Expected number of miles driven
Percentage of towing, how heavy, and what altitude
What they desire to have
etc.
We have spent way too much time on immaterial stuff such as "your oil change costs $80" LOL