Gas vs PSD
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The gvwr of my truck is 8800 lbs and the truck weighs 5500 lbs empty. Put me and you and a full tank of gas in it and it is up to about 6300 lbs. That leaves me with 2500 lbs of payload. A 12000 lb trailer is going to have a pin weight of about 2500-3000 lbs depending on how the trailer is loaded. That means my truck is going to weigh 8800-9300 lbs, which is right at or over the gvwr.
I hope we can do this too. I have nothing bad to say about how a 6.0 gets a load moving or pulls a load. I am just saying that a 5.4 with a manual and 4.10 will get a load moving just as good, if not better. 97% of sd's came with an auto and about 80% came with a psd, so there are probably only about 1% of the trucks out there with my set up. Which means the majority of people arguing against me have never even driven one. I think you are going to be really surprised if we can get together.
I hope we can do this too. I have nothing bad to say about how a 6.0 gets a load moving or pulls a load. I am just saying that a 5.4 with a manual and 4.10 will get a load moving just as good, if not better. 97% of sd's came with an auto and about 80% came with a psd, so there are probably only about 1% of the trucks out there with my set up. Which means the majority of people arguing against me have never even driven one. I think you are going to be really surprised if we can get together.
Oh yea I'm up for it. I love working my truck. I've been close to the house most of the year and everything is looking drab. I'm ready to see something different.
No I won't be surprised. Unless you've worked a 6.0l I think you will be surprised. I came from a 5.4 to the 6.0. My 88 f150 w/ a 5.0 had a 4 speed manual and I know how that granny gear. And your 5.4 has more bottom and top end than that 302.
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Ya I get it, a few ruin it for the rest of us. 
But really,you two gotta get together. I wanted to meet up here in Spokane but no one on here lives in the area.
But really,you two gotta get together. I wanted to meet up here in Spokane but no one on here lives in the area.
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Did you watch my video I posted the other. I had a gcw of 18k. Whatcha think about that acceleration?
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I'm really hoping that we can get together. I would be more than happy to make a day out of it, cook burgers, etc. If I lose a part of the comparison, I would have no problem posting the numbers or just saying I lost.
I didn't see the video. If you have it handy send me a link to the post.
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It has dawned on me that people don't realize that the 6.0 can rev higher than the 7.3l 3500 rpms. I just don't see the point in it unless you have a tune to move the powerband up in the rev scale.
If you have time and want to learn about the 6.0's insides the search youtube for 6.0 vs 7.3. Bill from powerstrokehelp.com has made a 6 part video explaining the differences in the 7.3 and 6.0 and why the changes has came around. The website also has lots of info.
If you have time and want to learn about the 6.0's insides the search youtube for 6.0 vs 7.3. Bill from powerstrokehelp.com has made a 6 part video explaining the differences in the 7.3 and 6.0 and why the changes has came around. The website also has lots of info.
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It has dawned on me that people don't realize that the 6.0 can rev higher than the 7.3l 3500 rpms. I just don't see the point in it unless you have a tune to move the powerband up in the rev scale.
If you have time and want to learn about the 6.0's insides the search youtube for 6.0 vs 7.3. Bill from powerstrokehelp.com has made a 6 part video explaining the differences in the 7.3 and 6.0 and why the changes has came around. The website also has lots of info.
If you have time and want to learn about the 6.0's insides the search youtube for 6.0 vs 7.3. Bill from powerstrokehelp.com has made a 6 part video explaining the differences in the 7.3 and 6.0 and why the changes has came around. The website also has lots of info.
Even watch the video of the pull off a year ago, the comments from the gallery was they were all surprised how the 6.0 pulled, it was almost comparable to the 6.4.
In 2003, the 6.0 was revolutionary for diesels. It was the first that got rid of the typical "slow diesel, pulls like a tractor" feel and made a great seat of the pants feel. There is a pull off on dieselpower or somewhere when it came out, it smoked the Duramax and Cummins, and really made them step up their game. Granted, by 2006, they had caught up and part of the 2003 issue was it ran too hot, causing HG issues.
Are there any V10s in your area? I want to see more than the 6.0 vs. 5.4 LOL
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I think the 6.0 is an extremely underated engine, it gets bagged so hard on realiability, people forget that it pulls hard. There are times I miss the seat of the pants feel compared to my Duramax. It's turbo is really the strength, and when it gets spooled up, it moves. And I didn't think I would ever say this, but I actually like the Torqshift over the Allison, especially with the SCT custom tune.
Even watch the video of the pull off a year ago, the comments from the gallery was they were all surprised how the 6.0 pulled, it was almost comparable to the 6.4.
In 2003, the 6.0 was revolutionary for diesels. It was the first that got rid of the typical "slow diesel, pulls like a tractor" feel and made a great seat of the pants feel. There is a pull off on dieselpower or somewhere when it came out, it smoked the Duramax and Cummins, and really made them step up their game. Granted, by 2006, they had caught up and part of the 2003 issue was it ran too hot, causing HG issues.
Are there any V10s in your area? I want to see more than the 6.0 vs. 5.4 LOL
Even watch the video of the pull off a year ago, the comments from the gallery was they were all surprised how the 6.0 pulled, it was almost comparable to the 6.4.
In 2003, the 6.0 was revolutionary for diesels. It was the first that got rid of the typical "slow diesel, pulls like a tractor" feel and made a great seat of the pants feel. There is a pull off on dieselpower or somewhere when it came out, it smoked the Duramax and Cummins, and really made them step up their game. Granted, by 2006, they had caught up and part of the 2003 issue was it ran too hot, causing HG issues.
Are there any V10s in your area? I want to see more than the 6.0 vs. 5.4 LOL
No there's not a lot of v10s around here. Ibe read that diesels make up 80% of SD sales. I think its more in the mid 90s around here. My buddy has one. Fast sob and can pull the green out of grass, but weight and stress... Well stress it out. We've came up with a redneck truck pull where we pulled my 12' JD disc. When the blades where straight he'd eat me up. Now put the blade in cutting and agressive positions and well that's totally different story. I hire him all the time to move hay, live stock, and equiment. So I get work biside his truck an awful lot. I've worked beside a couple the others and worked some as well. There's just nothing like the 6.0l.
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The 6.0 was to advanced for America when it came out in 03. The fuel was to "dirty". Americas ran their diesels 10k miles on an oilchange or untell it acted up. I can't count the times I heard my brother in law said his 7.3 acted like it was time to change the oil. This with a couple design flaws in 03 versions caused havic on the 6.0.
No there's not a lot of v10s around here. Ibe read that diesels make up 80% of SD sales. I think its more in the mid 90s around here. My buddy has one. Fast sob and can pull the green out of grass, but weight and stress... Well stress it out. We've came up with a redneck truck pull where we pulled my 12' JD disc. When the blades where straight he'd eat me up. Now put the blade in cutting and agressive positions and well that's totally different story. I hire him all the time to move hay, live stock, and equiment. So I get work biside his truck an awful lot. I've worked beside a couple the others and worked some as well. There's just nothing like the 6.0l.
No there's not a lot of v10s around here. Ibe read that diesels make up 80% of SD sales. I think its more in the mid 90s around here. My buddy has one. Fast sob and can pull the green out of grass, but weight and stress... Well stress it out. We've came up with a redneck truck pull where we pulled my 12' JD disc. When the blades where straight he'd eat me up. Now put the blade in cutting and agressive positions and well that's totally different story. I hire him all the time to move hay, live stock, and equiment. So I get work biside his truck an awful lot. I've worked beside a couple the others and worked some as well. There's just nothing like the 6.0l.
Especially note page 5.
Can you get the V10 involved in the deal too? Maybe you can tow the v10 there. haha
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Well Kevin would be up to it. Only thing is he hauls playground equiment so we'd have to work around a 3rd schudel. Kevin and I are working on videoing our adventures. We've seen the gps holders at wal-mart that you can position them the way you want. We're looking at getting a couple and see if we can't mount them in locations where we can film stuff like gauges, hills climbing etc.