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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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You already have one stand just need one more. Make motor mounts out of pipe and flat steel and you are in good shape. Sooner or later the motor would have come apart mostly sooner and it wouldn't have been pretty.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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If I go with new pistons, polish the crank, grind the cam, ect, is it still important to keep each part organized, in relation to its old position in the engine.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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It is ALWAYS a good practice to keep all the main parts organized in a manner in which you know where every part goes. I know that on the thousands of head gasket replacements I've done on these engines the last couple of years, I always re-install all valvetrain components back to their original locations. All the fasteners on the other hand, I just set them into a pile. After having numerous of these apart, I pretty much know where every fastener goes.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Well Anthony, if you are interested in more part numbers from Ford here they are:

4C3Z-6250-AA Camshaft
Navistar Camshaft 1843348C91

I don't have a crossover number for the other part.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Anthony, have you pulled your turbo apart? How is the condition of the y-pipe? How about the condition of all the rest of the other parts? Another suggestion about storing parts would be to go to town on buying various Rubbermaid containers. For example, take your eight injectors and leave it impregnated in a suitably sized container of new and clean engine oil. Ditto for new valve lifters. Just some suggestions. How about both the FICM and main engine harnesses? With THAT amount of mileage, and I can't imagine how hardened and brittle they must be by now.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zhilton
Navistar Camshaft 1843348C91

I don't have a crossover number for the other part.
Thx zhilton
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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I was worried about the y pipe. I will check the joints for leaks. I used ziplock bags. The totes would b nice. My inj are not submerged, but are soaked with new oil and sealed up. I'm planning on replacing the pistons, lifters, and the valve train. Not sure about what's gonna happen with the heads. I wrapped both wiring harnesses with reg electrical tape (15 rolls). They seem to be in good condition.
The new lifters should b soaking? Didn't think about that. I'm gonna have to reread your last 2 posts, I like getting tips like that.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
It is ALWAYS a good practice to keep all the main parts organized in a manner in which you know where every part goes. I know that on the thousands of head gasket replacements I've done on these engines the last couple of years, I always re-install all valvetrain components back to their original locations. All the fasteners on the other hand, I just set them into a pile. After having numerous of these apart, I pretty much know where every fastener goes.
I was thinking about the connecting rods,, I'm hoping to have everything else new. Except the crank n cam. Is one tool all that's needed to get the cam n crank timed. I have seen a couple tools that are for timing. I'm bouncing around with the questions.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by run6.0run
I was thinking about the connecting rods,, I'm hoping to have everything else new. Except the crank n cam. Is one tool all that's needed to get the cam n crank timed. I have seen a couple tools that are for timing. I'm bouncing around with the questions.
Yes, there is one tool (that I have sitting under my bench collecting dust as present) that aligns the cam and crank gears into time. But looking through the book procedure, tells me all it does is ensure the two dowels are both positively aligned which looks pretty straightforward if you ask me. But yeah, this is one VERY crucial step that I wouldn't want to mess up, so it would likely be a very good idea to have that tool handy when you need it.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by run6.0run
I just found out, they did get my engine out the door Friday, it left Atlanta at midnight.
yay. now you won't have to take the owners children as hostages.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by run6.0run
If I go with new pistons, polish the crank, grind the cam, ect, is it still important to keep each part organized, in relation to its old position in the engine.
it shouldn't matter, but it can't hurt...
at least as far as parts that are getting new bushings.

most of my rebuild info is with gas engines, but general
mechanical procedures and good practices carry over to
most things.....

switching main bearing caps on a gas motor is the kiss of death,
unless you are line boring the mains... that is just a for instance.
same with rod caps, etc.

crotchety old machinists tend to be very conservative about stuff.
i'd mark rods with where they came from, orientation, keep the
caps paired correctly, etc.... and i'd do that pretty much on everything
i took apart.

FWIW, i pulled apart a 4 stroke bike engine that had lube failure
at 7,000 rpm... i took it apart with a dead blow hammer, and
a body shop slide hammer, and it wasn't in as bad a shape as
the lifter video.....

i'd suggest with your luck you buy a lottery ticket, but it'd be a waste
of money....

who wins the lottery twice?

you are very fortunate.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
Yes, there is one tool (that I have sitting under my bench collecting dust as present) that aligns the cam and crank gears into time. But looking through the book procedure, tells me all it does is ensure the two dowels are both positively aligned which looks pretty straightforward if you ask me. But yeah, this is one VERY crucial step that I wouldn't want to mess up, so it would likely be a very good idea to have that tool handy when you need it.
dunno if this would work, but i've timed 4 color printing presses
using a digital level... a good one will resolve to a tenth of a degree,
and i ended up putting dowel pins in the four press rollers, then laying
the level across them, and zeroing them relative to each other.... and
if you get them out of time, the photos on the sunday edition have one
color shifted different than the other three, or you can lock the press up
at speed, and destroy the frame, which is a seven figure repair.

anyway, if you have dowel pins you can index off of, you can time
shafts very well that way, in my experience.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulthrotl
dunno if this would work, but i've timed 4 color printing presses
using a digital level... a good one will resolve to a tenth of a degree,
and i ended up putting dowel pins in the four press rollers, then laying
the level across them, and zeroing them relative to each other.... and
if you get them out of time, the photos on the sunday edition have one
color shifted different than the other three, or you can lock the press up
at speed, and destroy the frame, which is a seven figure repair.

anyway, if you have dowel pins you can index off of, you can time
shafts very well that way, in my experience.
Not that this post is going to help the OP in any way, but may I extend a kudos to you for possessing the talent to describe things technical in very clear detail that even an idiot like myself can get a pretty clear picture of what is being described? This is coming from someone who has ZERO knowledge on the subject matter pertaining to the operation of printing presses, but now has a pretty good mental picture of what was described, thanks to the post in quote.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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run6.0run, I have the Performance Machine & MFG short block back together and in the truck. I have put 30 miles on it and so far so good. Hope your project goes smoothly.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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