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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
You are correct.
And actually a diesel is less polluting than a gas engine. By a wide margin.
Pretty near 0% hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide is produced during the combustion process.
Gas engines have required catalytic converters since the mid '70's and diesel engines have not until much later and those are simply particulate traps, not catalytic converters.
Are you saying diesels pollute less than gasoline vehicles labeled with California's Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle ("ULEV") and Super Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle ("SULEV") standards?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bucci
Are you saying diesels pollute less than gasoline vehicles labeled with California's Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle ("ULEV") and Super Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle ("SULEV") standards?
Remove all the catalytic converters, EVAP systems, and yes they fill the atmosphere with carbon monoxide (half burned fuel) and hydrocarbons (unburned fuel).
Diesels don't need any of that stuff. You could live in the exhaust of a diesel engine. At idle the fuel air ratio is around 100/1. Plenty of oxygen left over to survive on and the amount of CO is just a trace.
You would smell like a locomotive, and I don't recommend that you try it, but you would be alive.
In a gas engine exhaust all but .5% of the oxygen is left over, along with about .%5-1% CO, 125PPM HC. Without the catalyst there to clean up the mess that would be released to the environment.
That's just the exhaust stream, you also have to make sure that the volitile gasoline doesn't vent HC to the atmosphere, so you have to have the EVAP system on the fuel storage.
Diesel is oil and won't evaporate like gasoline does.
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I saw a TV show a while back where they were using a diesel powered personel transport in an underground mine.
Definately not a place where you want to have a bunch of CO and HC gathering.
With the diesel there is no chance of a volitile fuel escaping and filling the mine with explosive gasses.
And cleaning up the exhaust is easy, they just used a particulate trap for the soot.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 95_Dually
I guess he is just in a hurry. Maybe he is afraid he will be late to his accident and doesn't want to miss it.

Really Bill, you are a danger to society with the speed of your vehicle carrying that much weight. I hope you slow down before it is too late.
I just drive with traffic in the fast lane.
On a 50 mile trip to the scrap yard, I have to move over 5-10 times for faster traffic.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
Oops, sorry. I guess I was in 'serious mode' when I read it and went in the wrong direction.

Not ill-conceived, just ill-received. Funny. Ever been on a horse when it has bad gas? It's some kind of torture, I tell ya.
It's all good. Not much of a horse rider myself but when they are a major part of transportation you tend to have to deal with horse exhaust (also called road apples) enough to get an idea of what that smell must be like.

Originally Posted by bucci
Sometimes jokes get missed or misunderstood. That's because everyone is cocked and loaded just waiting to fire back especially if the comment is made by someone having the opposing engine.
I'm pretty neutral on the whole V10 vs PSD. I like my V10 but have nothing against the 7.3, 6.0 or 6.4. I will probably always buy a V10 because it does what I need it to do but I don't begrudge anyone buying a PSD.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Monster-4
I'm pretty neutral on the whole V10 vs PSD. I like my V10 but have nothing against the 7.3, 6.0 or 6.4. I will probably always buy a V10 because it does what I need it to do but I don't begrudge anyone buying a PSD.
I feel the same way, in reverse.

I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a V-10 if the right opportunity presented itself.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by clux
I feel the same way, in reverse.

I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a V-10 if the right opportunity presented itself.

I feel the same way too, Even tho I think I just landed a
91 5.9 Cummins Now I need an adapter to get it to my C6 in my 78 F350
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncoholic1
I feel the same way too, Even tho I think I just landed a
91 5.9 Cummins Now I need an adapter to get it to my C6 in my 78 F350
sure would love to put one of those in my 83 F350.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
You are correct.
And actually a diesel is less polluting than a gas engine. By a wide margin.
Pretty near 0% hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide is produced during the combustion process.
Gas engines have required catalytic converters since the mid '70's and diesel engines have not until much later and those are simply particulate traps, not catalytic converters.
Wrong. They are catalytic converters. Diesels don't emit very much hydrocarbons, but still do emit CO, Oxides of Nitrogen (very nasty stuff) and Soot. You use catalytic converters to clean up the CO and NOx, some diesels have had a cat since the early 90s. You use a DPF (diesel particulate filter) to clean up the soot. DPFs were not required here until 2007.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Why are we arguing about smog?
we all know that an oil burner is better there than a gasser, right?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
we all know that an oil burner is better than a gasser, right?
Bill has finally seen the light!! Congrats Bill. Believe me when I tell you that the women flocking to your new diesel will become a burden. It is just something that we learn to live with. May peace be with you.

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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rush117
Bill has finally seen the light!! Congrats Bill. Believe me when I tell you that the women flocking to your new diesel will become a burden. It is just something that we learn to live with. May peace be with you.

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haha, nice try, you edited what I said.
I said that a gasser puts out more harmful gases from the exhaust, and that a diesel is better in that one area.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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I will bring the butter. LOL
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
haha, nice try, you edited what I said.
I said that a gasser puts out more harmful gases from the exhaust, and that a diesel is better in that one area.
I don't know, it looks like he is right in your quote.

Originally Posted by bill11012
Why are we arguing about smog?
we all know that an oil burner is better than a gasser, right?
It's ok to change teams in the middle. We will take you.

What word there? Where?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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I hate the way the quote editing can be done on this site...
 
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