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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head;9473https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=9473939939
1.51 x 4.1 = 6.191 Reduction ratio

5300 RPM / 6.191 = 856 revolutions per minute of the tire.

31" diameter. 31 x Pi = 97.34" Circumference

856 revolutions/minute x 97.34 = 83323 inches/min. Divide by 12 = 6943 feet/min. Multiply by 60 minutes = 416615 feet/hr. Divide by 5280 = ~78 MPH.
31 tire makes about 682 Rounds Per Mile.
856x60/682=75.3 mph.
The 682 RPM is for Michelin LTX tire. Depends of the tire model the RPM can be different by as much as 6%,
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Please keep in mind that you can't use just the sidewall size markings for an accurate calculation... There is no standard nor requirement that a tire actually be the size it's stamped. The actual size varies from brand to brand, model to model. I'm not saying a 275/70R18 is actually 305, more like a 275 could be actually measured 270-280 and/or the aspect ratio is off as well. Many manufacturers provide the tire height data now, so that may end up being the best starting point. That 31 may not be so 31.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
I have 3.73s. I'll see if I can get a vid of my truck on the limiter in second.
I've got to pay closer attention I thought you had 4.10 gears.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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And then Bill pulling all day 65mph all day in 2nd. Just crazy to me.
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What I think is crazy is driving around at 65 in 2nd gear.
With my 5.4 I can be in the same gear as Bill and do 60 mph at 4,500 rpm. There is no need to drive around like that all day though. Over my average 450 mile trip with 8-10k lbs(in TN, VA, WV and OH) about 440 of those miles are between 2,000-3,000 rpm and 10 are above 3,000. It's not like we have to run around at 4,500 any time you hook a trailer to it. We are just saying we CAN turn those rpms and run a lower gear than the psd.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
We are just saying we CAN turn those rpms and run a lower gear than the psd.

Maybe its just me, but where's the advantage in that. I must be reading that wrong or something, I don't get it.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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In my 6.4 I can lug along at 1500-1900RPM's all day long, using way less fuel...
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
With my 5.4 I can be in the same gear as Bill and do 60 mph at 4,500 rpm. There is no need to drive around like that all day though. Over my average 450 mile trip with 8-10k lbs(in TN, VA, WV and OH) about 440 of those miles are between 2,000-3,000 rpm and 10 are above 3,000. It's not like we have to run around at 4,500 any time you hook a trailer to it. We are just saying we CAN turn those rpms and run a lower gear than the psd.
Exactly...pulling that parachute of a travel trailer that I have It doesn't need to downshift from OD very often at all. When it does, it's just to get over a hill that requires a bit more power/tq than the engine makes at 2000 rpms.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF
Maybe its just me, but where's the advantage in that. I must be reading that wrong or something, I don't get it.
There's not an advantage in that, but you'll never get a gasser to admit it.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Yes, there is an advantage. You get to run a lower gear, with more torque multiplication.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF
Maybe its just me, but where's the advantage in that. I must be reading that wrong or something, I don't get it.
With my 5.4 I cruise around at 2,000-2,500 rpm. When I hit a big hill I downshift to turn more rpms and generate more tq, like Bill said, and use more fuel. With my 7.3 I cruise around at 2,000-2,500 and then when I hit a big hill I go from no boost to full boost and use more fuel. If I have to downshift with the 7.3 I have to slow down to keep from being over the redline. With my 5.4 I can downshift and accelerate.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
Yes, there is an advantage. You get to run a lower gear, with more torque multiplication.
And use double the fuel...Again, no advantage.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
With my 5.4 I cruise around at 2,000-2,500 rpm. When I hit a big hill I downshift to turn more rpms and generate more tq, like Bill said, and use more fuel. With my 7.3 I cruise around at 2,000-2,500 and then when I hit a big hill I go from no boost to full boost and use more fuel. If I have to downshift with the 7.3 I have to slow down to keep from being over the redline. With my 5.4 I can downshift and accelerate.
Even when I'm at full boost I'm getting better mileage than Bill when he's floored and screaming up a mountain...of course, TX doesn't have any mountains.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
With my 5.4 I can be in the same gear as Bill and do 60 mph at 4,500 rpm. There is no need to drive around like that all day though. Over my average 450 mile trip with 8-10k lbs(in TN, VA, WV and OH) about 440 of those miles are between 2,000-3,000 rpm and 10 are above 3,000. It's not like we have to run around at 4,500 any time you hook a trailer to it. We are just saying we CAN turn those rpms and run a lower gear than the psd.
I understand its just crazy to me.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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And use double the fuel...Again, no advantage.
Advantage: $6000-$8000 less msrp, less maintenance costs, less problems and on and on and on.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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face it bill the psd is just way better
 
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