Just the bed and lift....How much was the hydraulic part/PTO,, where did you get it, etc, and did you install it yourself? If you did, how long did it take? Also, could you have used the stock bed if you wanted? I have an idea for mine, and I know this is the place to ask...

thanks

 

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I know you like your PSD. I like my V10 just as much. I don't bash your PSD, but there are things about it I don't like.

Yet you and others in this thread continue to bash the V10 as unreliable, "not able to do the job" and a bunch of other criticisms that are unfounded.

That's not a "double standard".

I see this behavior all over society. You paid way more upfront, and continue to pay more over it's life, and bash everything else including other blue-ovals. It's a superiority complex. Yes, you can make it to the top of the hill faster, easier, get better mileage, etc. etc.

And yet, for some reason, I still like my V10, plenty of other people do, and we all actually WORK our vehicles. But somehow, you will continue to argue the same old points over and over and over again and still not GET it.

So, get off your high-horse, come down to ground-level, and maybe, just MAYBE you'll figure it out one of these days. [/QUOTE]

Just a second here. Bill picked this fight. After all the title of thje thread is v10 vs the PSDm bill has made the statement his v10 could out pull "my psd" before he changed his signature to just include a 2000 7.3L. He picked this fight w/ a 310 hp v10 not realizing that psds had. Came up in the world. He tried to argue the WOT logic but fact is his v10 @ WOT doent have the power in tq or HP of my 6.0L. Psd owners aint puTting down the v10. I never said I could out pull anybody. What I said was a v10 won't out pull me. We're saying under the condictions we bought the PSD we have the edge. Which is moving lots ofweight. Its my opion the v10 owners is on a high horse with something to prove.now bill wants to hide behind other members 3v v10m

 

I don't know how much just the dump body was. The upfitter that I bought it from and installed everything was Reading Equipment and Distribution.

I don't know what you mean by using the stock bed. My truck is a F350 chassis cab, it doesn't come with any type of bed. I had the upfitter install a Reading dump body. Reading Truck Body > Home click on dump bodies on the bottom of the page.

You could look in my album to see the bare truck and more pics of the truck with the dump body installed.

I'm getting the impression that you want to make your pickup bed dump???

 

Thats something I have thought about and would like to do, but most of the kits on the market for a standerd pickup bed are lighter duty than I would want.

Thats true, I started all this.

My truck was made at the same time as the 7.3, its 10 years old.
Whats wrong with comparing the newer V10 to the 6.0 and 6.4?
Everybody agrees that they will out pull a 2V V10 that was first built in 2000.
Whats wrong with talking about the 3V V10, which can match PSDs?

 

I link what I find, sorry if the stuff available today is not up to your desire.
My truck with dump bed, liftgate and winch is very valuable to me, but I am not kidding myself that California is more recreational than agriculture state.
Meaning not too much demand for big flatbeds, but boat haulers like F250 are in high demands. Still 10 years old, clean truck selling for $2800 gives you an idea what people think about the engine.
You want a bet that I can have it home tonight for $2300 cash?

 

I couldn't care less what you or the market thinks about an engine. You are connecting two F450 diesel chassis cabs and a V10 F250 that doesn't even have a chrome bumper or aero lamps and saying the V10 engine makes that truck only worth 1/4 of yours.

Go find a similar truck in Cal. as that F250 that has a 7.3l PSD and 180k on the odometer and then make a comparison on the value each engine brings to a similarly equipped truck.

At least make an attempt at a fair comparison.

 

I already did. Look few hundreds pages back
The F250 with 7.3 sells for $12k with extended cab and gadgets, down to $5000 for old worktruck.

 

Thats an amazing deal.
The best I could find a truck like that for here in good running shape was $4,000. With the options I wanted, over $5,000.

Best deal I could find was $1,500 for a truck with
bad engine, front axle and tranny.

 

There is a market for ANY clean Pick Up Truck!!!! There are many small contractors that need a good used truck. It is difficult to find an older used heavy duty pickup that is not a pile of junk!!!

 

I wish I could. Unfortunately my wife just got out of the hospital yesterday. She had to have serious reconstructive surgery on her foot and will be unable to walk for 8 weeks and off work for 6 months, so any fun time at the dunes this year is gone. My son and I washed our toy hauler last weekend and while I was rolling the awning out to let it dry, I peeked inside at my YFZ450. The thing looks and runs like absolute brand new and it makes me sad to see it sit, but it's been a tough year. I've been working 6 days a week, this is my wife's second surgery since July and I'm having to do everything for her, myself and our son for the forseeable future. But I'm not gonna let it bother me too much, I mean at least this surgery was successful, I still have a good job and my son has been great throughout this whole ordeal. I had hoped to make it to Florence before the rain (it's raining right now), then I thought maybe for Thanksgiving, now it looks like nothing this year. If you do go to Florence, be careful, there's lots of soft spots and witches eye's this time of year. For some neat hills, follow the treeline along the dunes near the South Jetty staging area, and for some bigger bowls and such, keep near the center of the dune strip and look for the guys doing the sand rail tours, they take the tourists on some hills to scare the crap out of them. Also be on the lookout for the sound buffer signs and stay to the west of them. It's a big ticket if you get caught, plus it looks bad for the duners. Where are you staying? Honeyman is great, but you can't ride out of camp until October, so my guess is your staying at Driftwood II. Great campground and right at the access road. Anyway, post up some pics to get me through until spring, maybe we can hook up then. I don't know if I posted this before, but here's a pic of Florence I tookk a while back.

 

I'll just go with this one since.

My 450 has 4.30 gears. The Ex had 3.73s.

The argument isn't really about what handles the load better, but about what engine pulls the load better. There is no comparison between a 450 and an Ex in that regard. There is no comparison between a 450, 350, or 250 in that regard.

I posted way back that I think this is a rather stupid argument, for multiple reasons, but I'm just playing the game by the rules (or lack thereof) that seem to be in place in this thread.

The argument tends to go...

"My V10 will out pull your 6.x PSD"

"No it won't"

"Yes it will. As long as it's a 3V V10 with 4R100 and 4.xx gears"

Apparently the gas crowd is allowed to optimize the engine model year along with the optimum tranny available and work in a set of gears that makes it competitive, yet the PSD crowd is not afforded the same courtesy.

But ok, let's go with that.

3V V10: 362 HP w/ 457 ft lbs TQ

6.0 PSD: 325 HP w/ 570 ft lbs TQ

I'm skeptical that 37 HP advantage is going to make up for a 113 ft lb TQ deficit, especially given that the extra HP only comes into play at about 2500 RPM higher then what would be normal average cruising rpms, for EITHER vehicle. IOW, the PSD is going to be cruising pretty much right in it's peak power band, while the gasser is cruising several thousand rpm under it's peak. Unless of course you want the gears to scream along at 65 MPH doing 4500 RPM. Hardly what I would consider a relaxing comfortable ride, but to each his own.

But hold on a sec. Why is it that the gasser is allowed to have almost an entire liter of combustion advantage over the diesel? How's that fair? Let's look at this...

3V V10: 362 HP / 457 TQ

6.4 PSD: 350 HP / 650 TQ

Uh oh. And yet, there still seems to be some folks adamant that the 12 HP advantage is going to make up for a 200 ft lb torque deficit. As long as they get to pick their gears. Wait a minute. Lets try to compare apples to apples a little closer. How about.....

6.8 liter 3V V10: 362 HP / 457 TQ

6.7 liter PSD: 400 HP / 800 TQ

Game over.....


The poster I'm replying to seemed to be focused somewhat on the gearing differences between my Ex and my Superduty, along with the general platform. No question the 450 has it all over the Ex in frame, axles, suspension etc, but as I mentioned that hasn't really been the argument.

And one detail HE seems to be forgetting, or maybe I didn't mention, is that I sold a V10 Superduty before I bought the 450. Same model year as the Ex, but with 4.10 gears. Pulled better than the Ex, but still not up to snuff compared to the 6.4.


The biggest reason I think this is a stupid argument is people are saying my X-gas engine will pull better than your Y-diesel, and then go on to toss in the rest of the equation which is the ENTIRE VEHICLE PLATFORM.

IOW, it's the entire package that does the job, not just what's under the hood.

 

I have personally owned the 3V V10, the 6.0PSD and now the 6.4PSD. As much as I loved my V10 as it was a real sweet engine it will not pull near as well as the 6.0 or the 6.4.

 

Shhhhh, don't tell Josh, Bill, or Krewat!!!!!!

Sorry to hear about your wife!

Yeah, I am stoked. I went to the St. Anthony dunes last weekend and finally got my boy that just turned 5 to dig it. The prior couple times at the dunes and other riding he didn't like going fast or up/down steep hills. But man, he loved it this last trip!

Thanks for the tips. We are staying at Driftwood. We plan to day trip to Winchester and/or Coos Bay as well for something to do.

I will say, my truck did really good last weekend towing the toy hauler. I was pulling about 10k with a lot of wind resistance, averaged about 70 mph, except for mountain passes where the speed limit is 55 in two of them. I got between 8.8 and 10.3 mpg every tank. Keep in mind the speed, wind resistance, and I was at 5,000 to 7,000 feet in elevation for half the trip and 3,000 to 5,000 the other half. So no "my v10 would have gotten 10 mpg" or "my 5.4 manual would have pulled that pass at 70 even though the speed limit was 55." (for comparison, my father in laws 2v v10 usually got 7 or so towing a 6,000 pound 5th wheel, never over 65, mostly at 60 mph on a similar trip.)

 

Yes, it could come in handy. I wouldn't be trying to dump real heavy stuff when using it as a dump bed, and I'd like to keep my original bed. I do some landscaping in the spring for side work, and it would be real handy for dumping mulch and top soil instead of shoveling it.

 

I'm really not familar with the pickup dump beds so I'm afraid I won't be much help. A dump trailer is nice, but you need somewhere to keep it when not in use.