Gas vs PSD
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From: WV
I agree, 4.10's with a 5.4L and a 4r70w (updated AODE) is not a good combo for MPG's.. Your buddy must have a new F150 with the 3V 4.6L, the 6speed auto and 3.55's. The 3V 4.6 is only 25 hp short of the 5.4L and only 30 or 40 ft/lbs less torque, So yes, i believe you that your buddies truck would beat yours. 3.73's, by all the posts and articles i have read, were the best gears to have in the 2004-2008 F150's.
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Just to add me and my best friend each purchased brand new Ford 350 SD his a v10 mine 7.3 the price was only 7800 difference and I'm still on my original drive train and have hardly touched it except for basic maintenance he has rebuil his tranny twice and the front end twice I have 170,000 miles he has 145,000 miles I have replaced most of my front end and my shocks he has also had to replace his computer due to error codes that the stealer couldn't fix. I tow a 10,000lb trailer every day for work he drives on the highway and we both pull campers for the family out of state where he gets around 7 miles a gallon I get 14 with a bigger heavier camper. The only draw back is I have to plug mine in when its cold.
V10 or 7.3 PS?
Why did they ever eliminate the 7.3 just imagine where it would be now.....It would be grate smoking a duramax!
V10 or 7.3 PS?
Why did they ever eliminate the 7.3 just imagine where it would be now.....It would be grate smoking a duramax!
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Just to add me and my best friend each purchased brand new Ford 350 SD his a v10 mine 7.3 the price was only 7800 difference and I'm still on my original drive train and have hardly touched it except for basic maintenance he has rebuil his tranny twice and the front end twice I have 170,000 miles he has 145,000 miles I have replaced most of my front end and my shocks he has also had to replace his computer due to error codes that the stealer couldn't fix. I tow a 10,000lb trailer every day for work he drives on the highway and we both pull campers for the family out of state where he gets around 7 miles a gallon I get 14 with a bigger heavier camper. The only draw back is I have to plug mine in when its cold.
V10 or 7.3 PS?
Why did they ever eliminate the 7.3 just imagine where it would be now.....It would be grate smoking a duramax!
V10 or 7.3 PS?
Why did they ever eliminate the 7.3 just imagine where it would be now.....It would be grate smoking a duramax!
7 MPGs? Last time I got 7 it was towing at 25K GCW in the city and then in hills.
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i think a big part of this discussion should be aftermarket performance. If you do similar mods to each the motor, the diesel will respond much better. Take doing the basics, intake, exhaust, and a tune. A 6.4 can easily make 500rwhp with just that. A v10 would maybe gain 30-40 hp from the same mods?
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The spitting sparkplugs was due to not enough threads cut into the head. Not putting them in wrong. My body doesn't load over 20k gcw cause he doesn't feel safe doing it. He has no doubt his truck can pull it
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Diesels take to mods better because they have a turbo. Take a 2004 Mustang Mach 1 and compare it to a 2004 Mustang Cobra, do the same mod to each car and the Cobra will have better results, because it's supercharged.
These motors are built for different purposes. The V10 is for people that want a gas engine that can pull, it does a good job at that. the PSD is for people that want a diesel engine that can pull and it does it's job at that.
I don't think it's apples to apples here. The PSD comes with a turbo and the V10 is naturally aspirated.
Both do their jobs and that's all that matters. A F150 with a 5.4 would do everything I would ask of it and that's all that matters to me. So if the truck works for people then it's a good truck.
These motors are built for different purposes. The V10 is for people that want a gas engine that can pull, it does a good job at that. the PSD is for people that want a diesel engine that can pull and it does it's job at that.
I don't think it's apples to apples here. The PSD comes with a turbo and the V10 is naturally aspirated.
Both do their jobs and that's all that matters. A F150 with a 5.4 would do everything I would ask of it and that's all that matters to me. So if the truck works for people then it's a good truck.
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i think a big part of this discussion should be aftermarket performance. If you do similar mods to each the motor, the diesel will respond much better. Take doing the basics, intake, exhaust, and a tune. A 6.4 can easily make 500rwhp with just that. A v10 would maybe gain 30-40 hp from the same mods?
Fly wheel torque means nothing. HP is what matters.
Do you think my 850 ft lb 1/2" drive impact wrench can out pull a V10 too?
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I paid less for my diesel then my buddy did for his v10, grant it i got a hell of a deal, and it would have cost more when they where brand new. DPF deletes already fail inspections, but theres always ways around it. My truck shouldnt pass inspection but it does. 
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From: at the truck pulls
BTW
My truck had 135000 to 138,000 the last time, not exactly sure. So is that okay? Besides, how many times do you see regular DD's have cat failures and they never did a thing?
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Wrong plug, too much or too little torque or cross threading and they will come out. They should have more theads so its more of an idiot proof design IMO, but its not the ticking time bomb PSD owners make it out to be.
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From: Texas
Its all fun and games until DPS wants to have a look when your towing something and they impound your truck.
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From: at the truck pulls
I put your quote back on page 523 or so. Your exact quote was you came in second place and lost to a dmax with a 100 horse bullydog. This was with your 2002 v10 without a tuner. And in response to someone saying a 2v v10 cannot outpull a 6.4, thereby implying a 6.4 was in the race and you beat it.
That my friend is what I called bs on and now you have said twice you did not say. And got really defensive and called me an idiot for asking for the results page, or maybe a link to the web posting from the track. Or the pick of the third place trophy you bragged about having. LOL any more questions? Have a good night.
That my friend is what I called bs on and now you have said twice you did not say. And got really defensive and called me an idiot for asking for the results page, or maybe a link to the web posting from the track. Or the pick of the third place trophy you bragged about having. LOL any more questions? Have a good night.
Now, I say "Good Day"
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Personally I like when V10 owners bash PS. This way not only I paid very low price for my truck 5 years ago, but shopping around I could buy 2001 F250 with 7.3 for $4500. This one is gone, but not that difficult to find another.
Would I buy V10 5 years ago I would be about 7 grands poorer now on fuel cost alone
.... if that thing would not spit plugs on me.
Would I buy V10 5 years ago I would be about 7 grands poorer now on fuel cost alone
.... if that thing would not spit plugs on me.
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From: at the truck pulls
i think a big part of this discussion should be aftermarket performance. If you do similar mods to each the motor, the diesel will respond much better. Take doing the basics, intake, exhaust, and a tune. A 6.4 can easily make 500rwhp with just that. A v10 would maybe gain 30-40 hp from the same mods?
They new he wasn't stock enough, so he didn't enter to win the money or trophy. But he outpulled them by a lot.
His son was banned from driving his truck because he was seen burning out all four tires, and there was black rubber in all the wheel wells when he got home. I'm just saying adding the supercharger, changing intake, injectors, exhaust, program, etc it is wicked strong and fast! Not saying it will beat yours but I wouldn't bet against him.
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I dont pull with this truck, thats what the dually is for. I dont think ive ever owned a truck that would pass a true inspection, and they all would never pass a noise emmision test. lol EGR valves, cats, and stuff like that are the first thing that comes off when i buy a vehicle.