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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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I would like 1 on my water separator also. I change mine on 7500 miles. It doesn't use any oil. That has surprised me.
6.0L Powerstroke HFCM Water Separator Drain Plug Ford Diesel

Can't remember where I bought mine, but don't think it cost this much. Either way, unless you like bathing in diesel, way better than the stock plug.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Mine sits in the driveway, I don't have a garage I can park vehicles in. Does that count?
Yeah, the whole counting numbers thing doesn't mean much. As has been discussed, there is like 10 times the number of 6.0s as v10s. AND the warranty on the 6.0 is 100,000 miles whereas the v10 is only 36,000. So those reasons alone, of course there will be more 6.0s in shops.

Though the reputation of the 6.0 is exaggerated.

Come on guys, lets get another pull off!!!! Any v10s around Spokane?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Mine sits in the driveway, I don't have a garage I can park vehicles in. Does that count?
As long as it is not getting holes in the hood -Bill will add it to his count

 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
As long as it is not getting holes in the hood -Bill will add it to his count
Sorry, I was smart enough to do the plugs in my V10 at around the 3 year mark, and put new zinc-plated ones (Motorcraft) back in with anti-seize.

Much like 6.0 owners who opt to put in ARP head studs to combat head gaskets issues (although a heck of a lot more expensive), EGR upgrades, or a slew of other "upgrades" that help the longevity of any diesel. Man, for the cost of a bottle of anti-seize, and a set of plugs, most diesel people use additives to help their engine run better, for longer, at a higher cost than I have experienced.

Losing proposition.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
6.0L Powerstroke HFCM Water Separator Drain Plug Ford Diesel

Can't remember where I bought mine, but don't think it cost this much. Either way, unless you like bathing in diesel, way better than the stock plug.
I don't ever get any on me. I would like to hjave em but won't never get em.
My 6mm allen and 3/4" gear wrench still works great. Thanks though
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
I will gladly apologize to anyone who can show a picture of ANY V10 IN THE HISTORY OF THE ENGINE THAT HAS BLOWN A SPARKPLUG THROUGH THE HOOD. To even think that is absurd. Have they come out? You bet. But the amount of broken PSD engines of all kinds is at LEAST 1000 times the amount of popped out spark plugs. Since this is the online version of the "Jerry Springer Show", I know some diesel-or-die owner will blather some other made-up stat to back up his theory, but before you do, I challenge you to do the following: call ANY FORD DEALERSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES (Kajtec can call Germany) and see how many PSD's they have in the service bay right now, then ask how many V10 SuperDutys they see per year. Then post your results. Be honest and and post back your results if you dare.
I said it. My buddy has a plug put a hole in his hood. No he doesn'kt have a picture of it. If you would read. I wasn't saying the v10 had more or less issues. I just said there was issues. Why don't yopu shut up and go read some TSBs.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 03:45 AM
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If you don't have proof then you're right about one thing: one of us should quit talking. What is "your buddies' " name? Care to PM me his phone number, or have him email me with proof? Maybe the shop that fixed it might be able to help me, got their number and name? How about a bodyshop reciept for the replacement hood? I'm easy, I'll take anything you have resembling proof! It would be very nearly impossible for ANY naturally aspirated, gasoline-fueled engine to eject a plug with enough force to puncture a steel hood placed about a foot away. The fuel rail is over the COP which would deflect it to the side, and the COP would act as a leash, killing any momentum the plug may have had before it tore loose, and even THAT is highly unlikely. As in all science, no proof, no evidence, it didn't happen. Sorry about killing your story, but next time start out your fairy tales with "Once upon a time..."
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
If you don't have proof then you're right about one thing: one of us should quit talking. What is "your buddies' " name? Care to PM me his phone number, or have him email me with proof? Maybe the shop that fixed it might be able to help me, got their number and name? How about a bodyshop reciept for the replacement hood? I'm easy, I'll take anything you have resembling proof! It would be very nearly impossible for ANY naturally aspirated, gasoline-fueled engine to eject a plug with enough force to puncture a steel hood placed about a foot away. The fuel rail is over the COP which would deflect it to the side, and the COP would act as a leash, killing any momentum the plug may have had before it tore loose, and even THAT is highly unlikely. As in all science, no proof, no evidence, it didn't happen. Sorry about killing your story, but next time start out your fairy tales with "Once upon a time..."
Why am I going to go out my way to prove it to you. I don't what you believe. Its not my point. My point is some of you are to lazy to do some research or don't know how. And sit around and run there their mouth. My point was the v10 has had problems. Proof that wrong. Where's your proof? BTW I could proof it though. I can post his work order. No I'm not cause like I said I don't care what you think. Now if you had acted like you has some sense and was wanting to learn something I would have gone out my way to get the info to board. Attacking me doesn't get the results you want.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
If you don't have proof then you're right about one thing: one of us should quit talking. What is "your buddies' " name? Care to PM me his phone number, or have him email me with proof? Maybe the shop that fixed it might be able to help me, got their number and name? How about a bodyshop reciept for the replacement hood? I'm easy, I'll take anything you have resembling proof! It would be very nearly impossible for ANY naturally aspirated, gasoline-fueled engine to eject a plug with enough force to puncture a steel hood placed about a foot away. The fuel rail is over the COP which would deflect it to the side, and the COP would act as a leash, killing any momentum the plug may have had before it tore loose, and even THAT is highly unlikely. As in all science, no proof, no evidence, it didn't happen. Sorry about killing your story, but next time start out your fairy tales with "Once upon a time..."
I'll agree it seems rather unlikely that it would put a hole through the hood there is a lot of things to slow it down, but maybe all the stars where alignment that day.



 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:24 AM
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I'll agree it seems rather unlikely that it would put a hole through the hood there is a lot of things to slow it down, but maybe all the stars where alignment that day.



I don't know how it happened or even why. 1 thing I'm pretty sure of though its not like sand man wants us to believe. When a spark plug is spit it don't just "fall out". I imagine there's pressure there. If it blew on the ignition I'm real sure that plug was moving. It would be easy to find out how much pressure it could have.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Here is an old article from 2007. It will give you PSDs more reason to keep the DSLs. When reading further down in the article not one plug was thrown through the the hood and hey it was only one truck that burnt up. Now that would fall into the stimulus package.

Spit Spark Plug Ignites Ford Truck
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
"BEWARE. This could kill you,"

"I was driving my 2001 Ford F-250 with a V10 engine in some bad winter weather when I heard the engine pop," wrote Thomas of Bellevue, Iowa. "Luckily I was able to maintain control on slick roads after sudden loss of engine power"

 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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I was being sarcastic about knowing 10 people with v 10. One spark plug being spit out is like 75 diesels breaking down statistically. And bill i use the same 7 plug with the round poles in all my trailers. Not the flat blades.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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AND the warranty on the 6.0 is 100,000 miles whereas the v10 is only 36,000.
The warranty on V10's is 60,000 miles and has been for the last 4-5 years I believe.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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How does using inflated prices to prove your point do towards your fuel costs?

I can buy a remain HPOP for $380, I can buy a modified one for under $700 and a brand new from ford is less then a grand. Even with labor it stil is under $1200 using a dealership and new parts.

But I currently have 156,000 miles on the original HPOP, injectors, and turbo. I never had an issue with my CPS and now Ford actually did stand by that part and do a recall. I did replace my glow plugs and controller at 100,000 miles, and I used other then stock controler that cost me $38.

Results for Other Diesel Parts:High Pressure Oil Pumps OEM Fuel Injectors, Diesel Fuel Injectors

Oops the 6.0 pumps are $675
I've never seen a 7.3L HPOP fail, I'm not a bit surprised that yours hasn't. By looking over the link you provided, I see that the 6.0L HPOP's have dropped in price quite a bit, the $2K I quoted was right off of the invoice on the last 6.0L HPOP repair. It included one new HPOP, one new ICP and some assorted gaskets/O-rings. The bill for the parts alone was just under $2K.
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