So does $1800 spark plugs repair.

 

I've never experienced a single spark plug failure or spark plug related repair in literally millions of miles of use on the fleet of modulars we keep up(2V and 3V), vehicles owned by friends,family,etc,or my own personal vehicles(2V, 3V and 4V). Yet, all but a couple of people I know have had their 6.0L HPOP fail, are on their 2nd or 3rd turbocharger, and all have had headgaskets changed at least once. These are not assumptions or hearsay, these are facts. Of the dozens of 6.4L's I have experience with, only 2 get more than 14 mpg unloaded on the highway, or more than 10 mpg towing any kind of trailer/load over 3000lbs. That pretty much mirrors my 6.8L 3V, and was FAR more expensive to purchase with more expensive fuel. Several of those 6.4L's are on their 2nd or 3rd radiator too. The 7.3L so far has been the most trouble-free of all of the PSD's that I have direct experience with. Toss a spare CPS in the glovebox, know how to change it, and in most cases, it'll never leave you stranded. You might have to change an injector a two over time, but they're not that bad, nor are they insanely expensive simply due to the age and parts availability.
As of right now, the only PSD I would own would be a 7.3L. The 6.4L will never be in my driveway-I will not own a vehicle that needs the cab off for any type of engine repair, and the 6.7L has not proven itself yet. The 6.0L...you'd almost have to give me one of those, and I'd spend around $5K in PARTS ALONE right off the bat fixing issues, and still would have a difficult time trusting it like I do my trusty 6.8L.
JL

 

Oh crap. Should I be changing my spark plugs every 10,000 miles?

 

That's about what Bill said. To avoid problems with plugs he changes them at 20k.
Right Bill?

 

The only problem that I have with the spark plug issues is that Ford did not stand behind them. I just think that if it was a factory plug that got spit out then Ford should have fixed it under warranty. If you mess it up on your own, that's different. With the 3v, once they realized there was a problem they should have recalled all of them and changed the plugs to the one piece design.

 

Next month I've had my truck for 4 yrs. At $1000 a year in fuel savings I guess the truck has saved enough money to replace the turbow and or Hpop. That's $4000 in savings. Thats a lot of fuel too my friend.

 

It cost me $30, takes about 2 hours.
Only gets done when its missing or the MPGs and power go down.
Mine from walmart is a little under $20.
I don't change the fuel filter unless I get a bad tank of fuel. $9 or so for a Wix IIRC.
I start at the full line and I am about 1/2-1 quart short when I change it.
I change it when it starts looking dirty.

The only guy I know with a 6.4 gets mid 10s.

 

How does using inflated prices to prove your point do towards your fuel costs?

I can buy a remain HPOP for $380, I can buy a modified one for under $700 and a brand new from ford is less then a grand. Even with labor it stil is under $1200 using a dealership and new parts.

But I currently have 156,000 miles on the original HPOP, injectors, and turbo. I never had an issue with my CPS and now Ford actually did stand by that part and do a recall. I did replace my glow plugs and controller at 100,000 miles, and I used other then stock controler that cost me $38.

http://www.injectorwhse.com/servlet/...FQ8E5QodnEaV1g

Oops the 6.0 pumps are $675

 

Hey johnny i know of 10 guys that had v 10s that spit plugs through the hood. See i can write something bad about the v10. People hear that 5 diesels break down and jump to the conclusion that all diesels have the same problem. I had a 7.3 that had one fuel pump in 324000 miles and thats it. Or my 6.0 has had a hpop but it was because of a shoddy mechanic who left the plugs on the rail loose. The problem with the diesels is that people bought them for grocery getters and thought they needed 450 horsepower to make it there.

 

You know 10 guys with V10s that put holes in the hood with plugs.

Your trailer has a 7 way plug, right?

 

Not all diesels, just the 6.0. For the last 7 years I have seen more than my share of my clients company trucks that had 6.0's in them(schlumberger, halliburton, weatherford, etc). These are oil field trucks that get put through the wringers with hauling heavy loads, being ran non stop all day long, lots of idling, driven off road daily, etc. Talking to the drivers and seeing the issues these trucks had when actually being worked is more than enough to guarantee that I will never own a 6.0 unless you give it to me for free.

 

I will gladly apologize to anyone who can show a picture of ANY V10 IN THE HISTORY OF THE ENGINE THAT HAS BLOWN A SPARKPLUG THROUGH THE HOOD. To even think that is absurd. Have they come out? You bet. But the amount of broken PSD engines of all kinds is at LEAST 1000 times the amount of popped out spark plugs. Since this is the online version of the "Jerry Springer Show", I know some diesel-or-die owner will blather some other made-up stat to back up his theory, but before you do, I challenge you to do the following: call ANY FORD DEALERSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES (Kajtec can call Germany) and see how many PSD's they have in the service bay right now, then ask how many V10 SuperDutys they see per year. Then post your results. Be honest and and post back your results if you dare.

 

We already settle the issue.
In order to see V10 in the service shop -it has to leave the home garage first.

 

I would like 1 on my water separator also. I change mine on 7500 miles. It doesn't use any oil. That has surprised me.

 

Mine sits in the driveway, I don't have a garage I can park vehicles in. Does that count?