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Unless I'm missing something Bill's v10 only has 310 hp and 425 lbs tq.
One with 275HP, 410 lb ft, 4R100 and 3.73s.
The other has 310HP, 435TQ, 5 speed and 3.73s.
Neither one of mine will really out pull you, though the 5 speed truck can get a load moving faster than you.
A 3V has 362HP/457 lb ft and will out run and out tow you. If his loses ground on hills than he is either much more loaded, more wind drag or not at WOT.
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No i didn't miss it, I even commented on it. "It passed emissions with ease" was about as plain as I could say it. If it passed emissions then it DOES satisfy the emissions requirements.
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I have 2 V10s.
One with 275HP, 410 lb ft, 4R100 and 3.73s.
The other has 310HP, 435TQ, 5 speed and 3.73s.
Neither one of mine will really out pull you, though the 5 speed truck can get a load moving faster than you.
A 3V has 362HP/457 lb ft and will out run and out tow you. If his loses ground on hills than he is either much more loaded, more wind drag or not at WOT.
One with 275HP, 410 lb ft, 4R100 and 3.73s.
The other has 310HP, 435TQ, 5 speed and 3.73s.
Neither one of mine will really out pull you, though the 5 speed truck can get a load moving faster than you.
A 3V has 362HP/457 lb ft and will out run and out tow you. If his loses ground on hills than he is either much more loaded, more wind drag or not at WOT.
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That my friend is what I called bs on and now you have said twice you did not say. And got really defensive and called me an idiot for asking for the results page, or maybe a link to the web posting from the track. Or the pick of the third place trophy you bragged about having. LOL any more questions? Have a good night.
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Gas mileage it the least of my worries. Buying a 7000# + truck with 10 cylinders.
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I'm calling BS on this. Show me proof it won't, show me proof, I'll never believe you unless you have videos and certified and notarized proof that it won't.
Sound familiar?
I can't believe so many people are experts in someone else's truck and they have no clue what it does. Have you tuned yours and pulled?
Sound familiar?
I can't believe so many people are experts in someone else's truck and they have no clue what it does. Have you tuned yours and pulled?
I'm just saying you aren't going to see that much of an increase from a tuner on a N/A engine. The best I've seen so far is about 35rwhp on an engine that produces 365 bhp, so your looking at a little over 10% increase in power. It might be over the entire range and such, but when you compare it to what a tuner can do on a turbo engine, that is nothing. I think the 6.4's can get like and extra 100 hp and more if they want to risk blowing it up. I know a guy with a Saab that jumped from 280 to 400 hp with a tuner. You won't see jumps like with just a tuner on a N/A engine.
I will admit you can probably get some significant improvement from the auto tranny though, but the PSD will get those improvements too.
Nope, didn't tuned mine and never competitively pulled. But I did pull a 12,000lb trailer through the West Virginia mountains.
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I could care less if use more gas, because my gas is cheaper than a PSD's diesel.
I know someone getting about 12 mpg with his 6.4 right now. Granted I got 10 mpg with my V10 which is worse, and we drove in basically the same conditions. But I don't really consider either of those number to be a deciding factor for my purchase of a truck.
If you do the math assuming diesel is $0.30 more than 87 octane here, you'll see it actually costs more in fuel to drive the diesel than the V10.
Now on the highway or when towing, his 6.4's mpg will blow me out of the water and save far more money, but I don't typically do either of those as we just takes the wife's SUV for that. Since I live 2 miles from my work, at 10mpg, I use about 2 gallons of gas a week, if I paid the extra $7,000 for the PSD, I could save 0.2 gallons of more expensive fuel... anyone want to calculate the amount of time it will take for me to make my money back on that diesel?
Not to mention diesels don't like driving such short distances.
I know someone getting about 12 mpg with his 6.4 right now. Granted I got 10 mpg with my V10 which is worse, and we drove in basically the same conditions. But I don't really consider either of those number to be a deciding factor for my purchase of a truck.
If you do the math assuming diesel is $0.30 more than 87 octane here, you'll see it actually costs more in fuel to drive the diesel than the V10.
Now on the highway or when towing, his 6.4's mpg will blow me out of the water and save far more money, but I don't typically do either of those as we just takes the wife's SUV for that. Since I live 2 miles from my work, at 10mpg, I use about 2 gallons of gas a week, if I paid the extra $7,000 for the PSD, I could save 0.2 gallons of more expensive fuel... anyone want to calculate the amount of time it will take for me to make my money back on that diesel?
Not to mention diesels don't like driving such short distances.
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How much further did you pull with the SCT versus without?
Edit: Let me say clearly my stance on the tuners: The only way a V10 is going to keep up with a tuner on a PSD is to slap on forced induction. While a tuner on a V10 might help squeeze a couple ponies out, you aren't going to see gains of 25% more power like you do on a PSD (or anyother turbo engine).
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Soooo what did I miss? That 37hp is not making up for the 93 lb of tq loss. On flat ground after where rolling we're at cruising speeds. Yea heaks out running me while loaded. When we hit the hills its a different story all together. He's even tried to speed up cause he knows I am only driving 55 to get a head start up the hill and I still get in front of him. Not 1 time has he been heavier than me. He will not load over 20k GCW. The most he hauls is 4 ton.
Why will he not load over 20K GCW?
How much further did you pull with the SCT versus without?
Edit: Let me say clearly my stance on the tuners: The only way a V10 is going to keep up with a tuner on a PSD is to slap on forced induction. While a tuner on a V10 might help squeeze a couple ponies out, you aren't going to see gains of 25% more power like you do on a PSD (or anyother turbo engine).
Edit: Let me say clearly my stance on the tuners: The only way a V10 is going to keep up with a tuner on a PSD is to slap on forced induction. While a tuner on a V10 might help squeeze a couple ponies out, you aren't going to see gains of 25% more power like you do on a PSD (or anyother turbo engine).
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True...because they have different gears....Thank you for being so astute.