Gas vs PSD
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The heads didn't have as many threads as before (or after), but if installed properly they will not shoot out. The problem was people changing plugs, or installing them at the factory, in aluminum heads when they have never put them in anything but cast iron heads. You can't put plugs in an aluminum head the same way you put them in a cast iron head and expect them to stay in the head. It is very easy to cross thread or over torque them if you don't know what you are doing.
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That just made it easy to mess up. If you use the right plugs, with anti seize and torque them right they will not blow out.
Wrong plug, too much or too little torque or cross threading and they will come out. They should have more theads so its more of an idiot proof design IMO, but its not the ticking time bomb PSD owners make it out to be.
Very true!
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Wrong plug, too much or too little torque or cross threading and they will come out. They should have more theads so its more of an idiot proof design IMO, but its not the ticking time bomb PSD owners make it out to be.
Very true!
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Just to add me and my best friend each purchased brand new Ford 350 SD his a v10 mine 7.3 the price was only 7800 difference and I'm still on my original drive train and have hardly touched it except for basic maintenance he has rebuil his tranny twice and the front end twice I have 170,000 miles he has 145,000 miles I have replaced most of my front end and my shocks he has also had to replace his computer due to error codes that the stealer couldn't fix. I tow a 10,000lb trailer every day for work he drives on the highway and we both pull campers for the family out of state where he gets around 7 miles a gallon I get 14 with a bigger heavier camper. The only draw back is I have to plug mine in when its cold.
V10 or 7.3 PS?
Why did they ever eliminate the 7.3 just imagine where it would be now.....It would be grate smoking a duramax!
V10 or 7.3 PS?
Why did they ever eliminate the 7.3 just imagine where it would be now.....It would be grate smoking a duramax!
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What he is saying is that there is a big difference in you passing an emissions test with a USED truck with over 130k miles and Ford having to pass 50 state emissions tests for NEW vehicles. As your truck ages, the standards it has to meet go down.
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I wanna see that thing work
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People from the factory make mistakes too. If a guy has been installing plugs for 20 years on cast iron heads and then you roll out an aluminum head with half as many threads, there is a good chance he is going to continue putting in plugs the same way he has for the last 20 years. I have a lot of relatives that work for two GM plants, and trust me, the people they have assembling these things are far from being certified mechanics of any kind. One of my cousins can't change her own oil or tire, but she works for GM assembling cars......
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Until you introduce the supercharger to equalize the turbocharger. My cousin did that very thing, and pulled in the same truck pulls as I do in Illinois. I'm not going to brag or give details that nobody will believe, but he whipped everybody, and there were more than 10 trucks.
They new he wasn't stock enough, so he didn't enter to win the money or trophy. But he outpulled them by a lot.
His son was banned from driving his truck because he was seen burning out all four tires, and there was black rubber in all the wheel wells when he got home. I'm just saying adding the supercharger, changing intake, injectors, exhaust, program, etc it is wicked strong and fast! Not saying it will beat yours but I wouldn't bet against him.
They new he wasn't stock enough, so he didn't enter to win the money or trophy. But he outpulled them by a lot.
His son was banned from driving his truck because he was seen burning out all four tires, and there was black rubber in all the wheel wells when he got home. I'm just saying adding the supercharger, changing intake, injectors, exhaust, program, etc it is wicked strong and fast! Not saying it will beat yours but I wouldn't bet against him.
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I guess I'll get a you tube account because it seems I can't post the webshots link. It's not spectacular because it's too dang quiet.
Later though, Daughter said it's time to go to the football game. Aloha.
Later though, Daughter said it's time to go to the football game. Aloha.
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The factory torque specs were bad in the begining. They came up with new torque specs later and I have never heard of problems with them.
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People from the factory make mistakes too. If a guy has been installing plugs for 20 years on cast iron heads and then you roll out an aluminum head with half as many threads, there is a good chance he is going to continue putting in plugs the same way he has for the last 20 years. I have a lot of relatives that work for two GM plants, and trust me, the people they have assembling these things are far from being certified mechanics of any kind. One of my cousins can't change her own oil or tire, but she works for GM assembling cars......
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I agree with you 100% that a v10 with those mods is a mean ****, but thats not really what i would consider a basic mod. Those mods on a v10 would probably make more power then where im at now, but i could toss in somethin like 190mm sticks and run the stock turbo, it would be smoky and hot, but it could be done. Now put an A/M turbo, hell even a cam and vavle train upgrade to bring the hp peak up to 5000rpm. Im gettin a chubby just thinkin about it. lol
Untill I blow a plug I will keep thinking its not a problem.
At last count I have owned 10 4.6s and 2 V10s. Non of them ever had a problem. Do the job right and they will not come out.
I would rather my V10 did not start crying.
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Either one will just keep making more power as long as you have money to throw at it.
I was talking about that and owners/shops changing them.
Untill I blow a plug I will keep thinking its not a problem.
At last count I have owned 10 4.6s and 2 V10s. Non of them ever had a problem. Do the job right and they will not come out.
I would rather my V10 did not start crying.
I was talking about that and owners/shops changing them.
Untill I blow a plug I will keep thinking its not a problem.
At last count I have owned 10 4.6s and 2 V10s. Non of them ever had a problem. Do the job right and they will not come out.
I would rather my V10 did not start crying.
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I asked where did I EVER CALL you an idiot? Still ain't getting it are you. I don't have the questions, I have the answers and you have you're momma's advise, right, I think it was you. Yep I told you go to webshots.com and you'll see the PROOF, but you can't handle the truth!
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Got me thinking. While in Europe I drove, or seen lot of cheap cars like Fiat, not mentioning about Communism era Pobjedas, Trabants, Wartburgs, Syrenkas and so on.
None of them ever had common problem of plugs shooting out.
How Ford having 100 years of experience did allow it to happen on their prime gasoline engine?
None of them ever had common problem of plugs shooting out.
How Ford having 100 years of experience did allow it to happen on their prime gasoline engine?