Gas vs PSD
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I still have yet to see a plug get spit out that was put in right.
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You'll lose if he has shorter gears than you.........no comparison. 3.73 in PSD, 4:30's in V10. He'll win, by gearing alone.....
Speaking of gearing, I was looking at 2010 6.4L with the snow prep pack, It had 3.55 gears! and a torqshift. ......
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Why does the pull off have to happen where you're at?Or maybe you could meet halfway somewhere.
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He wants the pull off to be at his elevation, he is afraid of losing without that advatage.
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Seriously though, if a 5.4L with a 3.73 can do it, I'm doubtful a 6.4 with a 3.55 would have an issue.
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I wasn't saying you had 4.30's, that was just for comparison. i couldn't remember what gears you had, haha... That was the 'IF' statement... "If he has shorter gears" in my previous post.....
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No it wont. i dont have to run at WOT to be in my powerband. How does 37 horses make up for the 93 lbs of tq? I'm reminded of The 302 mustangs and 350 camaros. The 302 weighed in a 225 ponies while the camaro brought 285 horses. What your saying in the camaro will be there before the mustang could get out of !st. This is not true. All the mags shotouts has the to 2 crossing the line in a time difference we cant see. Now which 1 was in front well that depended on what mag you was reading. I ate up alot of camaros over the years and been ate by a few as well. It was the stangs tq that got it down field. I cant remember the TQ numbers but 225 hp was more than enough to drive the tq. At highway speed my 410 over 430 is a very very very small advantage. If it where that i had 373s i would have a larger advantage. Please I want to understand.
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No it wont. i dont have to run at WOT to be in my powerband. How does 37 horses make up for the 93 lbs of tq? I'm reminded of The 302 mustangs and 350 camaros. The 302 weighed in a 225 ponies while the camaro brought 285 horses. What your saying in the camaro will be there before the mustang could get out of !st. This is not true. All the mags shotouts has the to 2 crossing the line in a time difference we cant see. Now which 1 was in front well that depended on what mag you was reading. I ate up alot of camaros over the years and been ate by a few as well. It was the stangs tq that got it down field. I cant remember the TQ numbers but 225 hp was more than enough to drive the tq. At highway speed my 410 over 430 is a very very very small advantage. If it where that i had 373s i would have a larger advantage. Please I want to understand.
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I'm not saying it wouldn't push snow. it'll do that just fine. but it will do more upshifting with the 3.55's verses the 3.73's when towing/hauling. IMH0, 3.55's are balance gears anymore. A balance between power and economy. 3.31's economy gears, 3.73 - 4.10's towing gears, 4:30 extreme payload and towing. I had a 5.4L F150 with the 3.55's, it did ok, but I wished it had the 3.73's for a bit more kick in the pants.... I always thought that 3.55's in that truck kept the RPM too low for best MPG's. i think ford did it for acoustical reasons.....
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I'm not saying it wouldn't push snow. it'll do that just fine. but it will do more upshifting with the 3.55's verses the 3.73's when towing/hauling. IMH0, 3.55's are balance gears anymore. A balance between power and economy. 3.31's economy gears, 3.73 - 4.10's towing gears, 4:30 extreme payload and towing. I had a 5.4L F150 with the 3.55's, it did ok, but I wished it had the 3.73's for a bit more kick in the pants.... I always thought that 3.55's in that truck kept the RPM too low for best MPG's. i think ford did it for acoustical reasons.....
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I agree, 4.10's with a 5.4L and a 4r70w (updated AODE) is not a good combo for MPG's.. Your buddy must have a new F150 with the 3V 4.6L, the 6speed auto and 3.55's. The 3V 4.6 is only 25 hp short of the 5.4L and only 30 or 40 ft/lbs less torque, So yes, i believe you that your buddies truck would beat yours. 3.73's, by all the posts and articles i have read, were the best gears to have in the 2004-2008 F150's.