Gas vs PSD
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Your one of the very rare situations. You drive your truck empty 8 miles a day. So yea I guess it really don't matter what it burns. Fuels around here right now is $2.55 for 87 and $2.85 for diesel. I get 18 mpg empty. The best I've read for a v10 is 14mpg. That's a 4 mpg differnce. So on 10 gals I get 40 more miles. So 14 mpg I'm saving nearly 3 gals. 2.55x3=7.65. That's $7.65 I'm saving every 10 gals. W0 gals of 87 cost $25.50 and 10 gals of diesel cost $28.50. Now that my savings is $7.65-$3.00 making it $4.65 adjusted for every 10 gals. The least I buy a month is 120 gals. For every 10 gals I'm saving 3 so that 12x3=36 gals36x$2.55=$91.80 a month. Just times that by 12 and the number gets bigger. That's makes a big differnce when the price of cattle falls out and price of grain goes up along w/ the price of fuel. So don't tell me the lower price of gas makes the differnce in mpg cause it don't. Its very simple math. When your truck becomes the center of your paycheck you understand that.
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i could make one hella commercial for ford with all the stuff i've done with my truck. Once pulled semi loaded with 15 tons of saw dust 5 miles to shop. Worst part was turning in. Pulled cotton module builder 60 miles. Semi blew engine at rest area 40 miles from ok city. Semi lost all air and locked brakes, took pick up and pulled out of way. Plus got to pull out dumb dodge driver who tried to go around. Hauled 2 mx 110 tractors on 35 ft gn. If i can hook up to it i will try.
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1:9296354
Even with $800 spark plug changes?
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If you change your own oil, you do save some money, your truck is a 6.0 right? That would be nice to do yourself because the filter is up top and not that big huge filter the 7.3 uses, I made a few messes taking those big baby's off when they are hot.
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None of mine burn any oil. F250 has 82K miles, Excursion has 73K miles. F150 with 4.6L(identical same engine tech) has 245K miles, same thing.
My plugs are the most expensive plugs to be had for a modular, and cost $90. As is typical with most diesel owners, you quote dealer ripoff prices for plug changes,etc, but at home repairs/maintenance for your diesel.
JL
My plugs are the most expensive plugs to be had for a modular, and cost $90. As is typical with most diesel owners, you quote dealer ripoff prices for plug changes,etc, but at home repairs/maintenance for your diesel.
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None of my 4.6's I've had burn any oil at all, and they get abused from time to time. My brothers V10 doesn't burn any either. He had his plugs changed on his truck by a mechanic and it cost him around $100 dollars.
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Go back and read what I said. I said MY 5.4 with a manual and 4.10 gears will get a load moving easier than SOME diesels with an automatic. I can start out in 1st(low) and the diesel is having to start out in its 1st, which is the equivalent of my 2nd. I never said a 5.4 would get a load moving better if they had the same gearing or if the 5.4 had an automatic.
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I currently own both and can tell you what they can do too. I have also towed the same trailers with a 4.6, 4.9, 5.0, 5.4 2v and 3v, 5.8, 6.8 2v and 3v, 7.3 OBS and SD and 7.5 as well as several other older models.
Depends on which psd you are comparing it too. Johnny gets 15 mpg's out of his v10 and I get 20 mpg's out of my 7.3. Over 1,000 miles I will use 50 gallons of fuel at 2.85 per gallon for a total cost of 142.50. Johnny will use 67 gallons of fuel at 2.40 per gallon for a total cost of 160.00. If a 6.4 gets 15 mpg like most I have talked to, it would use 67 gallons of fuel at 2.85 per gallon for a total cost of 190.95.
Go back and read what I said. I said MY 5.4 with a manual and 4.10 gears will get a load moving easier than SOME diesels with an automatic. I can start out in 1st and the diesel is having to start out in its 1st, which is the equivalent of my 2nd. I never said a 5.4 would get a load moving better if they had the same gearing or if the 5.4 had an automatic.
Depends on which psd you are comparing it too. Johnny gets 15 mpg's out of his v10 and I get 20 mpg's out of my 7.3. Over 1,000 miles I will use 50 gallons of fuel at 2.85 per gallon for a total cost of 142.50. Johnny will use 67 gallons of fuel at 2.40 per gallon for a total cost of 160.00. If a 6.4 gets 15 mpg like most I have talked to, it would use 67 gallons of fuel at 2.85 per gallon for a total cost of 190.95.
Go back and read what I said. I said MY 5.4 with a manual and 4.10 gears will get a load moving easier than SOME diesels with an automatic. I can start out in 1st and the diesel is having to start out in its 1st, which is the equivalent of my 2nd. I never said a 5.4 would get a load moving better if they had the same gearing or if the 5.4 had an automatic.
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
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Even with $800 spark plug changes?
296354 Even with $800 spark plug changes?
JL
Gassers owners brag about expensive oil changes on diesels what is mentioned $60 material cost and 20 minutes of labor, but forget to quote their spark plugs service, that is way longer than 20 minutes of labor and done in about the same intervals
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Depends on which psd you are comparing it too. Johnny gets 15 mpg's out of his v10 and I get 20 mpg's out of my 7.3. Over 1,000 miles I will use 50 gallons of fuel at 2.85 per gallon for a total cost of 142.50. Johnny will use 67 gallons of fuel at 2.40 per gallon for a total cost of 160.00. If a 6.4 gets 15 mpg like most I have talked to, it would use 67 gallons of fuel at 2.85 per gallon for a total cost of 190.95.
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Isn't that thread all about being biased?
Gassers owners brag about expensive oil changes on diesels what is mentioned $60 material cost and 20 minutes of labor, but forget to quote their spark plugs service, that is way longer than 20 minutes of labor and done in about the same intervals
Gassers owners brag about expensive oil changes on diesels what is mentioned $60 material cost and 20 minutes of labor, but forget to quote their spark plugs service, that is way longer than 20 minutes of labor and done in about the same intervals
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Why is my fuel mileage going to go down? Only thing I'm saying is .30 a gal difference in fuel doesn't offset fuel mileage.
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They also refuse to acknowledge those like me who have a maintenance package good for 150,000 miles from the dealership, so I couldn't care less how much an oil change, fuel filters, or brakes cost...I do have a spare set of FF's in case I ever get bad gas. My maint pkg was included in my $30,885.00 out the door price.
No maintenance package at almost 200k.
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Why is my fuel mileage going to go down? Only thing I'm saying is .30 a gal difference in fuel doesn't offset fuel mileage.
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So because you "read" that a 6.4 gets 15mpg, so it must be true? I've seen people who get better mileage than mine, and I get 19.9 - 20.4mpg now...Hand Calculated. And you know what?, I don't care who says I'm lying, either. I get hella' good mileage out of mine going to Denver daily. (73 miles each way)
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