Nope-the engines are mechanically identical. There was no reason to "improve" or "fix" anything. Yet, they felt to the need to "fix" their diesels.
JL

 

I know this is a waste of time, but what the heck: over what time period did you have these 14 beers and by who's definition were you sober? I've seen people falling down drunk claim they were fine, but that didn't make it true.
By the same token, if you consumed those 14 beers over a 14-day period, then I guess you would be sober. But if they were all in the same afternoon/evening (although by the content of your posts I have the feeling you've always got a buzz on) and you were caught driving, you would be sober all right, right after they slammed the jail cell door!

 

This has been my experience exactly. I haven't had one strand me personally, but have been called enough to go pick up guys that have had their 6.0L strand them. Enough that I refuse to own one of them.
JL

 

Very few engines get updated in less than 5 years. GM used the same exact 350 for how many millennium? The 7.3 PSD was used for quite some time with only 1 real significant change to it. The recent rash of diesel changes has only been because of the introduction of ultra low sulfur fuels and because of recent emission regulations. Gas engines went through the emissions stuff in the 70's and early 80's, so they are pretty stable now.

And now the V10 is going to remain the same in the F450-F750 series, only exception that it is being tuned for alternative fuels. So it will probably go more than a decade without changing much. Not that uncommon for an engine really though.

I do believe the only difference from 05-10 (and this isn't a difference with the engine) is that in 05-07 you could get 3.73 or 4.10 gears and '08-'10 you could only get 4.10 or 4.30. And when did the 5R110 come out? Was that part of the '05 engine line up?

 

Yes, the 5R110W was the trans for '05-up,and none of the 6.8L's were offered with a 3.73. 4.10 was standard with a 4.30 as the option.
JL

 

Waste of time exactly. California Government is responsible for for me quitting beer drinking. Have been good beer lover my whole life and while living in Germany -drinking 15 liters of beer was pretty common what with good sausage made for nice fest , but drinking the watery stuff they sell here is missing the purpose.
Just like Ford not making any upgrades to the engine for 5 years.
Naturally I compare Ford to the other brand I drive what is Mercedes. Even Mercedes is always leader in technology -they have engine managements updates done every year, while every 3 years their cars have at least "face lift".
Having Ford stamping the same bodies for 20 years and the same outdated engines for 5 or more shows ignorance not only to technology, but to customers as well.
The saddest part is that with the highly restricted import, we don't have many choices for better vehicles.
Just as a sample -my 12 years old 7.3 is still top choice on the market.
12 years in car technology is like comparing wood wheel with space shuttle in other countries.

 

trucks, specially heavier duty trucks, are known for being behind in technology and not updating as frequently as cars. It's a rather historic things, I guess because their sales are not traditionally driven by "new" items, but rather their capabilities. Revising an engine to get 2 more hp traditionally has not sold trucks as it would in a Benz. It is only most recently (i.e. in the last 10 years) that trucks have been updated so frequently. And engines like the V10, which are not the "premium" engine, are not going to be the focus of the engineering.

Benz may "update" their engine every year, but that is only to entice current Benz owners back to get the updated version and keep them from buying Audi or BMW. Trucks traditionally don't get replaced because they are 3 years old and the owner just wants a newer vehicle. Infact Benz tends to use their engines for quite a long time. How long was AMG 5.5L engine used, and the 6.5 has been around for close to decade now. I don't see the 6.3 leaving real soon either. Even their low models use the same engines for a good 5-7 years, sure with electronic updates, but it still mostly the same engine.

In all, these are two way different markets and hence require two different marketing strategies.

If you want to compare, Honda usually uses the same engine for at least 10 years with only minor updates.

 

None of the 6.8's had 3.73's? Like the one in your sig?

 

You don't like Fords, yet you own one, and you don't like America, yet you live here. And you think everyone else is wrong. Time to buy that coat with the arms in the back if you ask me...

 

You're overlooking a few things.

1) Americans like big vehicles. They don't like teacups with wheels on them.

2) We don't have huge taxes on gasoline so that we are economically forced into buying smaller cars for better gas mileage. European gas prices are CRAZY.

3) The diesel market is a strange beast at best. Many people remember the last American car that had a diesel in it, and it was a GM product. That engine was THE worst example of a diesel, and many many people still remember it's reputation so much so that they look the other way at diesels. Also, to save money, self-service gas stations are all over the place, and diesel is one of the SMELLIEST fuels known to man. Or woman. I know it's a generalization, but many many people in business suits or a nice dress will easily go fill their car with gas. But diesel? Nope. Ain't gonna happen. A quick look around here at gas stations shows almost NO full-service diesel pumps. Matter of fact, I don't know of a single one. And everyone single one has diesel on the ground around it so it clings to your shoes, the pump nozzle is slimy with it, and it ain't easy getting it off your hands.

Personal diesel vehicles are not going to catch on big here, at least without a lot of marketing and the possibility of high fuel prices.

 

No.
4.10 was the base gearset on 6.8L trucks, with 4.30 as the option.This started in '05.

JL

 

I've noticed that too. I'll gladly buy him a one-way plane ticket back to where he came from, as long as he promises to never some back. I'm fed up with foreigners coming here that do not like anything about our country except our prosperity.
JL

 

Indeed, the low fuel prices and (relatively) low taxes on vehicles never really created a need for tiny fuel efficient eco-box cars.

The fuel station right down the road from me is one of the few that actually has diesel, gasoline, kerosense and propane. They have 4 gas pumps and 1 diesel and two "islands" One island has two gas pumps, the other island has two gas pumps with the diesel pump in the middle. The concrete all around the diesel pump is permanently stained, the pump itself looks like it had fallen in to a vat of grease and the smell becomes quite apparent as you get near it.

 

A 2 dollar box of powder free blue nitrile gloves at the diesel pump would help keep it off your hands. A little kitty litter will absorb alot of fuel, and keep it off your feet. The gas stations are just too lazy to go clean up after messy truckers who buy 150 gallons at a time.... Also, if they could figure out how to make those insanely fast pumps not mix so much air into it, your tanks wouldn't overflow just from the foam.

 

Eh, this station is mainly used by local guys with diesel pickups. Occasionally a semi might fuel up, but not all that often.