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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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You should join club FTE, I would love to go into this more.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by exiled
Bill I owe you an apology. I'm sorry. I don't know why I thought you was talking about an 04-05 SD. Some how I got confused. I'll just walkl away now.
Don't worry about it, its no big deal.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
OK. Show me when I can buy used (somewhere between 4 and 10 years) Ford Focus 1.9 cdi.
How about Smart diesel that our Canadian friends enjoy so much? Have you seen Jeep Cherokees and Dodges Caravans with diesel engines? Those are the only engines you can find in their European siblings. Also Town & Country from my recollection.
How about diesel powered Lincoln Navigator?
While government dictators have been in extinctions around the World, US citizens don't even notice how they make well in this country. Why do we all have speed governors in all our cars? Why California sold beer is limited to 3.5% alcohol?
The list goes on and on.
You have some major issues don't you. I would go into it more and educate you on how things actually are however FTE guidelines do not permit, at least here.

Small fuel efficient gas and diesel cars ARE available in the US as I said. I never specified models. If things don't suit here in the US I suggest returning to Europe.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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That would be a joyous day indeed...
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
OK. Show me when I can buy used (somewhere between 4 and 10 years) Ford Focus 1.9 cdi.
How about Smart diesel that our Canadian friends enjoy so much? Have you seen Jeep Cherokees and Dodges Caravans with diesel engines? Those are the only engines you can find in their European siblings. Also Town & Country from my recollection.
How about diesel powered Lincoln Navigator?
While government dictators have been in extinctions around the World, US citizens don't even notice how they make well in this country. Why do we all have speed governors in all our cars? Why California sold beer is limited to 3.5% alcohol?
The list goes on and on.
The US has no requirement for speed limiters. Hence why a Corvette ZR1 will happily zip right past 200 MPH. he speed governors in certain vehicles are set for the vehicle's (and your safety) by the manufacturer. The tires that come factory on most American non-performance cars are not rated for more then 100-120MPH. The bigger and stronger the tire (for heavier loads) the lower the maximum speed the tire can handle. This is why Ford limits the F-450s and C&C trucks to around 82 MPH.

The Jeep Grand Cherokee was available for a short time here with a 3.0L Mercedes Diesel until our emissions regulations became tighter and they were forced to drop it. Take rate wasn't very high on it either.

Volkswagen diesels have been available here for a long time, but it hasn't been until the most recent versions of them that their popularity is starting to increase.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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[QUOTE=Krewat;9258942. Gee, I wonder why? [/QUOTE]
Why? I would really like to hear this one.

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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Jrfish, I didn't say that the v10 wasn't good for towing. I didn'l say it was a bad engine. What I said in that example was the PSD would pull the v10. Oh yea the v10 does flex the frame. Before I bought my PSD I was test driving a v10. I drove that truck for a week. That is why I passed over it to a PSD. All the v10s around me flex when they are in high rpms. I've never had a big enough truck. Guys in the f150 boards said I needed a SD. That's not why I got it. I just got bit by the SD bug. Oh but I agree now, that the SD is better suited to do what I do.
I agree the PSD will out pull the V10, it's just that the V10 could do the job I needed to, so why pay more for the PSD?

As for flexing the frame, I'm still not sure what you are talking about. I've been in mine and revved it up, the body rolls a little because of the engine can spin fast enough to apply force to one side of the truck. But it is not flexing the frame, think of lifting a box on one side, you aren't twisting the box, you're just applying an upward force to one side and lifting it. The PSD won't do that because it's revs won't build as fast as the V10, specially when in park. In any case that is far from flexing the frame.

I've flexed frames before, my last Chevy had a bent frame from overloading it with hay. Wasn't pretty...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
OK. Show me when I can buy used (somewhere between 4 and 10 years) Ford Focus 1.9 cdi.
How about Smart diesel that our Canadian friends enjoy so much? Have you seen Jeep Cherokees and Dodges Caravans with diesel engines? Those are the only engines you can find in their European siblings. Also Town & Country from my recollection.
How about diesel powered Lincoln Navigator?
While government dictators have been in extinctions around the World, US citizens don't even notice how they make well in this country. Why do we all have speed governors in all our cars? Why California sold beer is limited to 3.5% alcohol?
The list goes on and on.
Small diesels aren't in the US because for along time our diesel was to high in sulfur. Then the US gooberment cut the sulfur level down to 5ppm (I think it was 5ppm?) to make ultra low sulfur diesel. Unfortunately though the ultra low sulfur diesel has less power per gallon, which translates to lower mpg. Truckers of course hated this, hence the reason it was done so much later than in Europe. But it was required to reduce emissions of SOx and bring modern diesel engines to the US. Once this was done manufactures started looking into it.

Then all the manufactures starting getting diesel ideas, diesel half ton trucks, small diesel engines for cars and such. Problem is a few years after they removed sulfur, the US put these super high restriction on the emissions. Previous to that, the US emissions were less restrictive the Europeans; but then they became more restrictive. This made manufactures think twice, because they would have to add expensive exhaust systems to their cars to put a diesel engine in them. This would require reengineering the entire exhaust system for the US market.

The manufactures were for bringing diesels straight from Europe to the US, but since they would have to put money into them it was not so attractive. Specially since the diesel car market in the US is very low demand. I've heard, most US buyers don't like diesel cars because of the diesel car craze in the '70's. Those diesel cars were not good at all; broke down often, were slower than a flat turd rolling sideways, etc. As those people move on, and a younger generation of buyers get to the point were they can buy new cars, diesel cars are slowly gaining popularity. But the market probably will not support more than one or two manufactures of diesel cars right now. That may grow with time though.

On a side note, a friend of mine just bought a Jetta TDI. He rode in my Saab and immediately said my Saab had so little lag compared to his TDI, and of course followed that up with his TDI gets 40+ mpg while mine is lucky to get 30 mpg on the highway.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by exiled
Why? I would really like to hear this one.

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Big turbo Diesels aren't that great for getting up to 10 mph then stopping 100 feet later and continually doing that. They offer very little help in the mpg area under those conditions and add significant complexity to the engine coupled to higher repair costs. Diesels are most effective when you put them on the highway and let them go for long stretches, or at least keep them moving. Start and stop traffic is not that favorable to diesels, here hybrids are much more effective.

Another reason governments will buy the V10 is because of it's E85 rating. The V10's up to 2010 were only E10, but the new ones will be E85 compatible. This means governments can run their trucks environmentally friendly...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by exiled
Why? I would really like to hear this one.
It has to do with exhaust smell in residential neighborhoods and noise. It also has to do with running propane/CNG. I know the sound of the local garbage trucks, but now I have to see exactly what trucks they are running
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
It has to do with exhaust smell in residential neighborhoods and noise. It also has to do with running propane/CNG. I know the sound of the local garbage trucks, but now I have to see exactly what trucks they are running
Sound I can under stand... but worrying about the diesel fumes from a garbage truck is like worrying about turning off your fan in a hurricane. But since they are all run by politicians...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Sound I can under stand... but worrying about the diesel fumes from a garbage truck is like worrying about turning off your fan in a hurricane. But since they are all run by politicians...
Really? I can smell a truck running in front of my house for 2 minutes. Around here, we are all on 100x100 plots or even smaller, with the house in the middle of the plot. And on a nice day with the windows open, it's horrible.

Just checked the truck going by today, it's an International... and definitely not diesel.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...is-before.html

Just saw that looking through the SD thread list. Just makes me even more happy to have V10s!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Why California sold beer is limited to 3.5% alcohol?
It's not. I was born and raised there before I joined the Army. CO and MN are like that though unless you go to a liquor store though....3.2 if you but from a grocery store or gas station.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...is-before.html

Just saw that looking through the SD thread list. Just makes me even more happy to have V10s!
wow, a 6.0 with an EGR cooler problem? Go take a peek at the 6.4 thread..(I'm sure you already did) ONE issue on the first 2 pages....and it's an easy fix.
 
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