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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
I do want a manual for other reasons though, but probably won't get one because the wife can't drive a manual.
That is all the more reason to buy a manual.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Perhaps my statement wasn't completely clear, you're concerned with taking off from a stop up a completely insane incline. While I also take off at an incline, the most I've ever had to face is about a 10%. So for me it, the take off advantage of a manual isn't there. Sure it will be easier to get it rolling, but an auto can do it without an issue. I do want a manual for other reasons though, but probably won't get one because the wife can't drive a manual.
With my manual I was pulling out of backyards with about 75% slopes, while having good load of wet wood on my 10 foot flatbed.
When my differential blow up, I rented 2004 F550. That thing with automatic, hooked up to 14 k trailer would not move up the motel driveway. I had to risk going on reverse to dead end slope to get it to lower incline before it would start moving up. The engine was reving close to 1500 rpm, but no torque to turn the driveshaft.
Hope there were no Chevy owners in the motel
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
When my differential blow up, I rented 2004 F550. That thing with automatic, hooked up to 14 k trailer would not move up the motel driveway. I had to risk going on reverse to dead end slope to get it to lower incline before it would start moving up. The engine was reving close to 1500 rpm, but no torque to turn the driveshaft.
Hope there were no Chevy owners in the motel
Towing 14K with a 6.0 and 5R110 it could not get a load moving?
How steep of a hill are we talking about?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
With my manual I was pulling out of backyards with about 75% slopes, while having good load of wet wood on my 10 foot flatbed.
When my differential blow up, I rented 2004 F550. That thing with automatic, hooked up to 14 k trailer would not move up the motel driveway. I had to risk going on reverse to dead end slope to get it to lower incline before it would start moving up. The engine was reving close to 1500 rpm, but no torque to turn the driveshaft.
I assume it wasn't 4x4 and you couldn't go to 4LOW?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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I'm not really up on highway construction, but just how steep is 75%? It's gotta be pretty extreme, especially with a trailer.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Personally, I'm wondering how they paved something that steep. I went up a dirt road to deliver a condensing unit to a church and was wondering how the they get up there in the winter. I thought I was going to twist the driveshaft out getting up there. Floored it, let everything spool, and made it no problem with a small trailer (6X9) I'll get some pics next time I go up there. Coming down was no fun either in something that big.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
I'm not really up on highway construction, but just how steep is 75%? It's gotta be pretty extreme, especially with a trailer.
A 75% grade on a hill means the elevation changes 75 feet per every 100 feet of distance.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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A 75% grade on a hill means the elevation changes 75 feet per every 100 feet of distance.
I just did the math on that and it comes out to 36.8 degrees. To back anything up that steep of a hill is amazing. I am impressed on that one!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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I just did the math on that and it comes out to 36.8 degrees. To back anything up that steep of a hill is amazing. I am impressed on that one!
We had some REALLY steep hills on Fort Knox when I was there called "Heartbreak" and "Misery" and I think Misery was only 18.5%. Try hiking up that after a 20 mile "walk" through the woods with full gear....loads of fun. Blisters the size of a tire footprint.

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...ium/168370.jpg
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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No thanks. I totally agree that an 18% grade would be brutal hiking in any conditions, but 75% is beyond my comprehension. Heck, I've ridden motocross tracks that weren't that steep!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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75%???..........they call it mountain climbing.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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I agree, that is extremely steep. Maybe he didn't mean it the way I took it.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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I think a 60% grade is the legal limit for Hiway construction in California. Or is it 6%?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Wow, I didn't think they allowed that much.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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For major highways I always heard they wanted to stay around 7% for a max if they can. Steepest marked grade I've driven up is 18% with a turn at the base that kills speed prior to the climb.
 
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