I'm just using this as an example of how some people "fib" about their trucks capabilities, so when they talk so poorly about another truck it should probably be taken with a grain of salt. Just like when they only mention the 800 lbs of rock but "forget" that they had another 500 pounds of crap in the bed.

They are different f-150's but they have the same suspension parts. Just like comparing a crew cab f250 to a regular cab f250. Vastly different payloads, but both can handle the same amount of weight before resting on the bump stops.

Here is the video of me showing that the pictures were not taken when the truck was unloaded.
YouTube - 100 1561

This is still 400 lbs more than the 1,300 lbs you actually had in your bed. Nowhere close to the bump stops. The only other reason I can think that it would be on the bump stops is because it was overflowing with bullcrap.

 

Now that is sig-worthy! I would rep you but it would not let me.

 

The payload capabilities and the amount of weight it will take before reaching the bump stops are VASTLY different between a Super CREW, and a Super CAB. 4X4 and 4X2 also play into it, along with the bed length. Yes, the suspension parts are identical.

Nice language for a mod....I see you overlooked the worn out leaf springs (in 7 months) and just want to keep harping the same thing over and over again. Good moderating. You don't see me bashing Ford, or the F150 anywhere. My F150 (One of 3 I've owned) was unable to keep up with the demands of my job. That was the ONLY point I made, I'd mentioned the situation with the landscaping rocks once, and 3 months later, here you come with pics, videos, and other crap one little piece at a time like you're trying to bait me into an argument...ALL with the most oppositely configured F150 possible. Congratulations Sir, YOU have managed to turn this thread into the circus that it is.

 

My point is that you talk about how it was on the bump stops from only 840 lbs of rock, but you forget that it had at least 500 lbs of other stuff in the bed. You said your tool box had 300 lbs of stuff "in it" which means you may have also forgotten to add in the weight for the toolbox itself. I have a 2006 Ranger(and an OBS 150) sitting in the driveway that I could put 840 lbs in the bed and not have it sitting on the bump stops, so I just don't buy that it would do that to a 150 regardless of the legal payload capacity.

I am allowed to say anything that I wouldn't warn/infract you for. Being a mod doesn't mean we aren't allowed to join in debates, state our opinions or even get upset when someone questions the authenticity of our pictures/videos.

 

First, who cares about the F-150, lets uh, stop that discussion. LOL

Josh, nice video, now lets see you prove your point on how your 5.4 will take a 6.0 or 6.2 off the line. I will be patiently waiting in front of my computer.

 

Why don't you give this page a look:
Jason's Webpage

Wonder if it's a coincidence that the ranger posted is on that page - along with the exact same 04 F-250 that he has listed on his FTE Page?

Also, there is no such thing as a full-sized type Ranger - at least in America. The current ranger is basically the same size as the 83 Ranger. Similar payload and towing capacities too.

 

Dude, the toolbox? Seriously? That's a guesstimate of the weight, but no, I don't consider the weight of the toolbox usually. Do you weigh everyone before they get in your vehicle? Again, you are overlooking ALL OF THE THREADS about the leafs on the 04-08 F150's wearing out. When it was new, no, 840lbs of rock probably wouldn't have dropped it. That is the 4th or 5th time I've said that. For that Scab you show to be sitting like that, it doesn't get a whole bunch of use. I've seen lots of them dropped out with not-that-big-of-loads on them, or leaning when parked on level ground because the leafs and coil get weak from someone SITTING IN IT. Tell me that's not a truck that's slightly undersprung...

Again, applying your logic, I have someone who has never seen my truck, telling me how it worked for me based on a truck they borrowed, that is a LOT lighter than the one I had, but shared the same suspension.

I could overload any vehicle and get away with it...a few times; and for short distances. I was routinely carrying 800-1300lbs of tools in the back, plus a full 36 gallon tank, toolbox, Rhino, etc. I did that until they got us some E350 vans, but then I left a month later. I grabbed my F250 because I started my own business (still subcontracted through my old company for jobs, too) and realized the F150 I had wasn't going to cut it anymore without new springs, shocks, and a stronger engine/trans to tow some of the units I install. Believe what you want, but leave that rock back there, throw a couple hundred more lbs in it to get you close to the payload capacity for a 2WD Scab and drive it everywhere for 7 months or so. Not gently either. You need to take some goat trails to get out to different jobsites. Then remove everything, stand on the tailgate and see how bad it sags with just your weight. That's the only way you'll understand. I like the F150's and will own another one some day. I NEED the F250 for the payload capacity, and the miles I drive for the job.

This debate is dead.

 

I suggested that a while back...

 

The old F100's were called "Rangers"...

 

The f150 is not relevant to this discussion but it does show who is being honest about their trucks and what they are capable of and who is exaggerating or forgetting to mention pretty important parts of the truth.

I can post videos all day long but a few people won't be happy with those videos unless they are here in person. Even then they would claim my truck wasn't stock, the diesel was sick, the driver couldn't drive, etc. Just like the ones that said Johnny had an empty trailer, Tom was sandbagging, my pictures were taken with the truck unloaded, etc.

 

Ranger used to be a trim level - along with Explorer for that matter. You could get an F-250 Ranger, F-350 Ranger, etc..The same as how you can get an F-250 or F-350 Lariat.

It's quite apparent he was talking about the dedicated truck called Ranger, and not an old F-series truck with the Ranger trim as the "Ranger" trim was dropped in 82, and the F-100 as a whole was dropped in 83.

 

And when I read his original post, I thought he said 19-EIGHTY Ranger, which would have been an F100.

 

I agree. The character of many members got defined by how they posted this thread.

 

Including those who simply like to stir the pot or start stuff...

 

Even if that toolbox only weighs 40 lbs it is still 40 more lbs in the bed of the truck. All of those little things you "don't count" do have weight to them. You may only have 840 lbs of rock, but that isn't the only thing in the bed and needs to be factored in when talking about how much your truck struggled with that little weight.

Wow, you can tell how the truck is used just from seeing a couple of pictures of it. You say it doesn't get used, but the only pictures you see of it are with 1,700 lbs of rock in the bed..... Yes, the truck does get used like a truck. He doesn't tow with it, but he builds rock walls and does landscaping, so the truck is always filled with mulch, plants, brick pavers, landscaping stones, etc. That is why I was giving him my left over stones. Do I need to go take pictures of some of his most recent projects to show you that he does in fact do work?