That picture I posted towing my Blazer and the motorcycle was taken in June of 2007, that post you referred to was made in November of 2008.
I never did get the air bags. I was still planning on that upgrade when I bought my '08 F250 and never looked back.

The PSD. Each engine has the power to spin all 4 wheels in 4LO, so the truck with the most traction will be the one that wins. The PSD trucks weigh ~500 lbs more, so that would be what matters here.

In 2WD it would likely be a draw, as both engines will spin the rear wheels and the rear axles should weigh about the same between engines.

In 4HI, neither trucks would likely spin all 4 wheels so the one producing the most power at the stall speed of the torque converter(~2,000 RPMs) would win. This would clearly be the diesel, as the V10 doesn't start to pull any harder until north of 4,500 RPMs.

 

Well, I have never been to see a tug-of-war contest, but I would guess the diesel since it weighs more, and assuming the tires and hitches are equal. Come to think of it, I'd say the driver has a lot to do with it too.

 

Eh..I read a lot of your responses and I don't expect anything less from you.

 

lol...ummm...DIESEL, FTW!!! Seriously? Whoever spins their tires first will lose. That's a no-brainer.

To caveat on my F150 woes and hopefully let it go away, though that's up to the Mods...I used to run it loaded every day, and overloaded quite a bit. I blew one engine on the first one (well documented in the F150 forums and Ford stepped up to replace it) and a transmission on the second one in less than 18 months. The dealership bought back my first one because they had so many problems getting the engine right. They tore a leather seat, couldn't get the exhaust manifolds to seal to the new engine, and much much more. You're not the only one hard on a vehicle Bill...

Anyway, I believe my springs were weak in the first place from being overloaded all the time but nobody bothered to ask. The final straw for me was hitting the bump stops with 840lbs of rock in it on the second truck. I found over 20 different threads talking about worn out leafs on the 04-08 F150's on 3 different forums back when my problem occurred, and I know I was hell on that truck. That's why I now have an F250 that has 800lbs (usually minimum of 800lbs) in the bed daily.

If you load an F150 up on occasion and haul a short distance, an F150 will handle it. If you're hauling 800+lbs of tools and equipment in a 4X4 Screw on a daily basis and parking it overnight still loaded, you'll wear it out in less than 7 months. Period. (That's how long I owned my second 2008 F150) I don't haul on occasion; I haul daily since it is a work truck for me. I keep it clean, and do my daily PM's on it, but I work it harder in a month than most people will work theirs in a year; and that's a FACT. I bought my F250 in May of 2010, and have 8417 miles on it as of August 21st, 2010 with no problems. I'm hoping the add-a-leaf I had installed will keep me happy for a few years since the F350 would have cost me another $400.00 a year to license. I probably could have got similar payload results on the F150, but it was severely underpowered up here in the first place.

Diesel, FTW!

 

Neither one has any real advantage. That does not test the engine either, just a matter of traction.

There is a vid on youtube of a 300 pulling a 454 all over the place.

 

Not sure what kind of wimpy Ford trucks you have out your way but that was just not the case with my Ranger.....

Not that I have anything to prove to you, and not that you'll believe me anyway, but I once hauled ten 70lb bags (all stacked near the front of the bed) and was certainly not "buried". I've also hauled 1/2 ton of sand and was again not "buried". Slow going? Yes. Sitting on the bump stops? Nope.

Maybe I had a super Ranger

 

I have heard that a ranger can live through 3,700 in the bed...
Really shoud have taken a photo.

 

I hauled over 1,000lbs of gravel in my old 84 4x4 Ranger v6..........not on the stops, no problem getting it going................stopping? steering?.....not so much.
Those early 80s Rangers were stout!.......had a later (90) Ranger, it would not take the tongue wt. of a 15ft alum. fishing boat without adding overloads.

 

Feel free to keep babbling about something off-topic...Your "Ranger" was the full size truck type. I'm thinking of the little ones that don't haul much. Come on out to Colorado if you'd like...I'll show you who has a wimpy truck...(Here's a hint, you'll need something bigger than your 5.4)

 

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Wrong. This was my Ranger


When I said "wimpy", obviously I wasn't referring to the most awesome truck in the world, that you presently own. The wimpy trucks I'm referring to are all the F150s and Rangers you see that hit the bump stops when a mosquito lands in the bed.

Wrong again, my 5.4 is all that I'll need. I bet you a silver dollar that I can go anywhere in my 5.4 that you can go in your PSD. My truck gets me, my family, and all our stuff where we need to go and that's what I ask of it. I'm not on here claiming that I can out pull you or out run you.

By the way, here's a thread full of people who didn't do what they said they did....
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ou-hauled.html

Sorry for ruining this pristine thread by keeping it off topic

 

Sorry, I'm not believing you.

 

Says you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn't do that now but that's what you end up with when me at 16 years old customized the truck.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I didn't figure you would, and I'm crushed.

 

It comes down to how much some people will NOT believe about a certain topic no matter what. You can have pictures, videos, timeslips, you name it, and there's always a "you're lying" vibe.

 

If you're going to just out-and-out insult people, leave this thread. Last warning.

 

I would bounce him anyway to improve the forum.