Thats way off the bump stops.

 

I had 1,960 lbs in the bed of my '03 Ram 1500 4x4 reg cab long bed and it was not on the bump stops. However, it was very close, probably an inch or less away.

800 lbs putting an F-150 on the bump stops - truck is useless.

 

Go look at the F150 threads...4, 200lb guys in a Screw (Super Crew) and it's over GVWR... I liked my F150, but it didn't haul anything in the bed without squatting down and riding on the bump stops. Just a normal, everyday, 2008 Lariat SCrew F150 with the tow package. SCabs have a higher payload than the SCrews which is why Josh is all happy with that one. However, that one is damn near on the bump stops if not completely. The bumps stops are at, or right before level which is where that's at. Mine were at dead level. FYI, a 2010 F150 "Payload" rating for a 4X4 Screw with the 6.5' bed is 1510lbs...However, that is already exceeding the GVWR. Mine was 1280lbs for a 2008 4X4 Screw with a 6.5' bed, and at 800lbs it was on the bump stops.

 

I had a 5.4 with 3.73 gears in my F150. It was a dog in that configuration. (Again, I'm in Colorado)

 

lol...you're clueless about the F150, and it shows by that ^.

 

Thats very true, I have never worked on or driven one.
By the time I had just my tools with me I would be well over the GVW, so I have never had any intrest in them.

So the bump stops are much higher than normal? Most things would have about 3-4" more travel before hitting the stops.

 

Before making a statement like "if I had looked" it would be wise to make sure the truck isn't still sitting in my driveway

Rock still in the bed


My hand between the axle and bump stop.


View without my hand in the way.

 

Now that I'm done with the class I was in I have enough free time to dive in again...

Um...I seriously doubt it. My '07 was a similar configuration to yours and I have loaded it and pulled heavy with it numerous times.

Like this one:



350 lb bike in the bed, ~600 lb tongue weight on the trailer plus 4 people in the cab. Nowhere NEAR the bump stops.

F150s are very capable trucks, I nearly bought one to replace my dead F250. As capable as they are I was really used to the power of my '08 and didn't think I'd be happy towing heavy with the 5.4L again. Had the 6.2L been out in the F150 it would have been a done deal though.

 

Are the torque curves exactly the same? Same tranny ratios? Same rear end? Seeing as how Ford advertises the tritons as the only gas engine to make 80% of peak torque at idle, I highly doubt the chevy has the same low end power. I have pulled over 10,000 lbs with mine many times and would not call it a dog. Unless by dog you mean it has to downshift.

You still don't understand what gearing does. By multiplying torque(with gearing) that means you can take an engine with half as much engine torque but twice the gearing and put the same torque to the ground with both of them. Just do a simple experiment. Find a car or truck with a manual tranny and pull out in 1st gear. Then stop and try to pull out in 5th gear. Same engine torque, but much different result. The gear spacing between my 1st and the 1st on a TS (or an e4od) is wider than the gear spacing between your 1st and 5th. It's not just a small gearing advantage.

I made the offer for you to come ride with me and to bring your trailer, but I also made another offer. Read the rest of what I said. If ANYONE wants to get together and pull some trailers around I am all for it as long as my truck can handle the trailer. My truck will win at certain things and it will lose at others. It's not that big of a deal to admit that another truck can do something better than yours.

 

Doesn't that tic you off! Somebody hundreds of miles away who has never seen you, your truck, or the load that was on it telling you how your truck handled the load.

 

This thread is funny.

 

WELCOME to FTE!

 

Silence has fallen in the mountains of Colorado. Yea.

 

That red 150 Josh posted looked level to me with the stone in the bed and him standing on the tailgate. It will probably take another 1k lbs before it gets to the bump stops.

 

The truck is 2wd too, so it is naturally going to ride lower than a 4wd. That's why the bed isn't as high off of the tires as one would expect. Like you said, I would have felt comfortable adding even more weight to it. I drove it around for about 45 minutes today just trying it out and it handled great and never bottomed out going over speed bumps, pot holes, etc.