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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Nothing has been done to the truck it's brand new with only 2400 miles on it. It's still bone stock. For now.
I think theya re talking about the car that had all the engines put into it 9 years ago, not your current truck.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
I think theya re talking about the car that had all the engines put into it 9 years ago, not your current truck.
I haven't had that car since I had kids. Which was almost 6 years ago. I don't have any records of that car.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
I haven't had that car since I had kids. Which was almost 6 years ago. I don't have any records of that car.

No big deal to me. I actually believe you, some dealer are pretty good about that kind of stuff. The Ford dealer I bought my truck form in Ohio was like that. I knew quite a few people who had modded cars/trucks and still got warranty work done, not sure if nitrous was ever involoved though...

To bad the Ford dealer I have to deal with now is a pain. they would rather not cover it under warranty and charge the customer because they can charge higher hourly rates to the customer. They recently charged me $70 to tell me my non-Ford running boards where causing a vibration, which I think is BS. The guy took my truck out for 20 minutes and came back that and a bill for $70... I wasn't to happy and am looking for a new dealer, even if I have to drive an hour to get there.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
No big deal to me. I actually believe you, some dealer are pretty good about that kind of stuff. The Ford dealer I bought my truck form in Ohio was like that. I knew quite a few people who had modded cars/trucks and still got warranty work done, not sure if nitrous was ever involoved though...

To bad the Ford dealer I have to deal with now is a pain. they would rather not cover it under warranty and charge the customer because they can charge higher hourly rates to the customer. They recently charged me $70 to tell me my non-Ford running boards where causing a vibration, which I think is BS. The guy took my truck out for 20 minutes and came back that and a bill for $70... I wasn't to happy and am looking for a new dealer, even if I have to drive an hour to get there.
They knew the nitrous was on the car but I think I had to take out the kit. I know I'm lucky to have such a good relationship with this dealer. Even when I have to pay for the work they give me empolyee discount on parts and hourly rates.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
Haha, my oil filter costs $18 at wal-mart!

Often the 0% interest deal works out better than a higher rebate. I picked the 0% financing on my '07 F150 in lieu of the extra $3K rebates and I think it actually would have saved me $3-4K over the life of the loan if I were to have paid it off.

I, too, take KBB with a grain of salt. Works wonders for justifying my purchase after the fact, though!

Sounds like you got a heck of a deal on your V10 truck. Not sure how much of this agonizingly long thread you've read, but for the vast majority I've been arguing FOR the V10! When I was looking for a truck I wanted the V10. I thought it was sheer madness to pay an extra $7K(at the time) for a diesel engine when the V10 would suit my needs just fine. Unfortunately V10 trucks are VERY hard to find and this one happened to be sitting on my dealer's lot and they were very motivated to see it go. When I first set eyes on it they told me of the $12K off, and that was the precise moment when I started considering a diesel!

Overall I'm very happy with my truck. I can say that if I were able to get a V10 truck for $6K under what I paid for this one I'd be even happier! Unfortunately finding a deal like that on a V10 truck would be virtually impossible; I don't think I could have found a V10 truck otherwise identical to mine for the same price, let alone $6K less.

So in a nutshell, I would have been happy with either engine. The V10 is certainly more suited for my occasional heavy towing use, but my PSD was clearly the better value for me at the time.
My dealer tried the same thing on me. Told me they couldn't find a CC 4x4 V10 that wasn't completely loaded, but had many diesels to choose from. I asked them the price on the cheapest one with the options I wanted, which was a XLT; I then told them I could get a Chevy for about $3k less with a diesel and the options I wanted. Sad thing was that the Chevy was really $3k cheaper, even though I had the Z-plan pricing with Ford and no special pricing at Chevy. The next day they "found" the truck I have today about 600 miles away.

But hey, if I could have gotten a diesel at the right price, I would have.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
My dealer tried the same thing on me. Told me they couldn't find a CC 4x4 V10 that wasn't completely loaded, but had many diesels to choose from. I asked them the price on the cheapest one with the options I wanted, which was a XLT; I then told them I could get a Chevy for about $3k less with a diesel and the options I wanted. Sad thing was that the Chevy was really $3k cheaper, even though I had the Z-plan pricing with Ford and no special pricing at Chevy. The next day they "found" the truck I have today about 600 miles away.

But hey, if I could have gotten a diesel at the right price, I would have.
This situation is one of the main reasons why there were more diesels sold than V10's. Dealers looked at V10 trucks like they were infected with some sort of disease, and some dealers even refused to order them for lot stock. It's all about profit and dealer holdback money-they could care less about selling what people want or need.The funny thing is-the dealers that stocked the V10 trucks never had a problem selling them-most of the V10 trucks sold before the dealer had time to get the trucks prepped for the lot.
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
This situation is one of the main reasons why there were more diesels sold than V10's. Dealers looked at V10 trucks like they were infected with some sort of disease, and some dealers even refused to order them for lot stock. It's all about profit and dealer holdback money-they could care less about selling what people want or need.The funny thing is-the dealers that stocked the V10 trucks never had a problem selling them-most of the V10 trucks sold before the dealer had time to get the trucks prepped for the lot.
JL

I should also add I bought an '09 when the '10 were on the lot, which made things even more difficult.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Pretty quite...

V10's rule!!!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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The funny thing is-the dealers that stocked the V10 trucks never had a problem selling them-most of the V10 trucks sold before the dealer had time to get the trucks prepped for the lot.
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I have a friend that has worked for one of the Ford dealers here since about 2000. I have stopped by at least once a week to chat with him since he started working there and not one time have I seen a v10 on the lot-new or used. If they have 20 new trucks on the lot, 18 of them are fully loaded diesels of some kind(lariat, king ranch, etc) and 2 will be xl 5.4 work trucks. He said they specifically order them with every upgrade they can get because virtually all of their customers just buy what's on the lot.

I have been looking for a v10 for about the last year and I have checked every lot within about 50 miles of here. I have seen two v10's. One got sold before they finished the paperwork on the trade in and the other one sold in about two days. The lot my friend works at has had the same three 6.0's on the lot for the last year. I am on the diesel side(7.3 side ), but I will be the first one to admit that our lots around here are littered with 6.0's that are between 95-105k miles and you see the same ones sitting there every time you go by.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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A lot of people buy whats on the lot and it makes sense to do so because you can often get the best deal that way. Ever since the SDs hit the market in 98' the majority of dealer stock was PSD and 5.4l. I've spent lots of time searching dealer inventory over the years to confirm it. The PSD to 5.4l ratio is around 3:1 in favor of the PSD. My dad ordered his last two V10s and I was lucky enough to find a dealer with 2 in stock so I bought one.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
I have a friend that has worked for one of the Ford dealers here since about 2000. I have stopped by at least once a week to chat with him since he started working there and not one time have I seen a v10 on the lot-new or used. If they have 20 new trucks on the lot, 18 of them are fully loaded diesels of some kind(lariat, king ranch, etc) and 2 will be xl 5.4 work trucks. He said they specifically order them with every upgrade they can get because virtually all of their customers just buy what's on the lot.

I have been looking for a v10 for about the last year and I have checked every lot within about 50 miles of here. I have seen two v10's. One got sold before they finished the paperwork on the trade in and the other one sold in about two days. The lot my friend works at has had the same three 6.0's on the lot for the last year. I am on the diesel side(7.3 side ), but I will be the first one to admit that our lots around here are littered with 6.0's that are between 95-105k miles and you see the same ones sitting there every time you go by.
I've been watching the same 10-15 2005-2007 6.0L trucks sitting on used lots here and the side of the road with for sale signs on them for almost a year now. Nobody wants them-they're infested with 6.0L cancer. On the other hand,I have hell finding used 5.4L or 6.8L trucks for work here of any year model-they're almost non-existent on the used market around here.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dkf
A lot of people buy whats on the lot and it makes sense to do so because you can often get the best deal that way. Ever since the SDs hit the market in 98' the majority of dealer stock was PSD and 5.4l. I've spent lots of time searching dealer inventory over the years to confirm it. The PSD to 5.4l ratio is around 3:1 in favor of the PSD. My dad ordered his last two V10s and I was lucky enough to find a dealer with 2 in stock so I bought one.
The original owner of my truck ordered it from the factory exactly how he wanted it-NOBODY had one in stock within 500 miles when he wanted to purchase. The dealers did their best to try to talk him into a 6.0L when he did,but he stood his ground and ordered the V10.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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The dealers stock what people want to buy... It's not rocket science. There is not a big market for trucks who's fuel consumption is measured in Gallons per mile.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
I've been watching the same 10-15 2005-2007 6.0L trucks sitting on used lots here and the side of the road with for sale signs on them for almost a year now. Nobody wants them-they're infested with 6.0L cancer. On the other hand,I have hell finding used 5.4L or 6.8L trucks for work here of any year model-they're almost non-existent on the used market around here.
JL
It's the same way with the 5.4's and 7.3's around here too. For the last year I have seen almost nothing but 6.0's on the used lots. A good 7.3 is actually selling for the same or more than a nicer looking 6.0 with less miles on it. On the same lot a while back I saw two trucks. One was a 2000 lariat crew cab f-250 7.3 with the underside covered in rust, used as a farm truck, power windows/locks didn't work, srw, 185k miles and they were asking $19,500 for it and it was gone in less than a week. The other one was a 2006 f-350 crew cab dually lariat 6.0 with 95k miles on it that looked brand new and they were asking $21,000 for it. I drove past it every day on my way to work and it sat there for a year and a half. I would have been more likely to consider that one if it had 185k miles on it than the 95k.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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The dealers stock what people want to buy... It's not rocket science. There is not a big market for trucks who's COOLANT consumption is measured in Gallons per mile.
There...fixed that for you.....

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