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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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i dont like how loud most diesels are though, my buddy had his running in my driveway and we could barely hear eachother speak and it got to be alittle obnoxious haha
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
And if you put 4.10's in the psd it would probably gain another 5 seconds or maybe a little more so that would put it 10 seconds or more faster.
That's one big ASSumption. Strap the same load behind yours and pay to have a 4.10 put in it, then go do the run and PROVE IT.
Tom and I have both put our "money where our mouth is", and have found the trucks to be equals even when towing at close to their rated limits. All you've done is shown your blind allegiance to an engine.
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
1700 rpms is alot if you tow alot. If you tore down a psd that has towed 15k pounds for 200k miles and did the samething to a v-10 towing that much for 200k miles I bet the v-10 will have alot of wear and tear and damage of the engine. Plus how many more times would you have to fill up compare to the psd if you ran it 1700 rpm higher?
Again, ASSumptions with no facts to back it up.
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
That's one big ASSumption. Strap the same load behind yours and pay to have a 4.10 put in it, then go do the run and PROVE IT.
Tom and I have both put our "money where our mouth is", and have found the trucks to be equals even when towing at close to their rated limits. All you've done is shown your blind allegiance to an engine.
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Well why does ford put the psd through a 250k mile testing and they don't do that to the v-10. Probably cause they know they need to be rebuilt by then.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Well why does ford put the psd through a 250k mile testing and they don't do that to the v-10. Probably cause they know they need to be rebuilt by then.
More ASSumptions. You have no idea what Ford's durability testing of the modular series engines is like.
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
That's one big ASSumption. Strap the same load behind yours and pay to have a 4.10 put in it, then go do the run and PROVE IT.
Tom and I have both put our "money where our mouth is", and have found the trucks to be equals even when towing at close to their rated limits. All you've done is shown your blind allegiance to an engine.
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Assumpion my ***. It is a proven fact that a psd and v-10 geared the same the psd will always be faster. And I'm sorry I don't have something that I can tow that weighs 15k pounds that is laying around to prove it to you.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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More ASSumptions. You have no idea what Ford's durability testing of the modular series engines is like.
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I'm sure it's nothing like the psd cause I bet they would say something like they make a big deal out of the 250k mile testing of the psd.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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I'm sure it's nothing like the psd cause I bet they would say something like they make a big deal out of the 250k mile testing of the psd.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 250k test was for the 6.7. Did Navistar do the same for 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Assumpion my ***. It is a proven fact that a psd and v-10 geared the same the psd will always be faster. And I'm sorry I don't have something that I can tow that weighs 15k pounds that is laying around to prove it to you.
The PSD will just be running a gear higher in the tranny to keep the revs down if you give it higher gears. Gearing does nothing to change HP, the V10 will still have more.

How is it a "proven fact"?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 250k test was for the 6.7. Did Navistar do the same for 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4?
I know they did it to the 6.4 cause it said it in the booklet I picked up plus the video that came with the truck.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 250k test was for the 6.7. Did Navistar do the same for 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4?
Navistar rated them for 50% to still run without over haul past 250K.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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The PSD will just be running a gear higher in the tranny to keep the revs down if you give it higher gears. Gearing does nothing to change HP, the V10 will still have more.

How is it a "proven fact"?
And actually hp has nothing to do to get the object that you are towing moving. So the psd will always have more tq then the v-10. So the psd will always get the object moving faster.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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And actually hp has nothing to do to get the object that you are towing moving. So the psd will always have more tq then the v-10. So the psd will always get the object moving faster.
It might get it rolling faster, but the V10 will pull harder once gets to 15 MPH or so.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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See just like LS1 guys. Thinking their motors are the best. I mean if the v-10 are so "badass" why doesn't ford produce more v-10's then psd? Oh I know why cause the psd will always be a better choice at towing, hauling, better mpg, and just overall better engine.
 
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