Gas vs PSD
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From: Melissa TX
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The big deal is that you're stealing and committing fraud, and to an extent your dealership is too. I can blow up my motor too, then go to a dealer and BS my way through them replacing it.
I'm going to have to agree with Krewat, next time you blow up a motor with your modifications why don't you go ask Ford directly if they would foot the bill, and when they say no, you should probably ask them why not and mention that your dealer does it all the time for you, might be a good idea to throw in the name of the dealer as well
And just to get things back on track: Powerstroke guys never have to worry about that kind of thing, as they're diesels and diesels don't blow up
I'm going to have to agree with Krewat, next time you blow up a motor with your modifications why don't you go ask Ford directly if they would foot the bill, and when they say no, you should probably ask them why not and mention that your dealer does it all the time for you, might be a good idea to throw in the name of the dealer as well
And just to get things back on track: Powerstroke guys never have to worry about that kind of thing, as they're diesels and diesels don't blow up
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Pick any motor, the 6.0, 6.4 or 7.3. any one of them had more problems than the V10 during its 11 years in the F250 and 350.
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Yet there are more diesels out on the road then v-10's. You have to admit it, if the v-10's were such a great motor there would be more on the road. Hell here in north TX I see more v-8's super duty's then v-10 and a crap load of diesels.
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The big deal is that you're stealing and committing fraud, and to an extent your dealership is too. I can blow up my motor too, then go to a dealer and BS my way through them replacing it.
I'm going to have to agree with Krewat, next time you blow up a motor with your modifications why don't you go ask Ford directly if they would foot the bill, and when they say no, you should probably ask them why not and mention that your dealer does it all the time for you, might be a good idea to throw in the name of the dealer as well
And just to get things back on track: Powerstroke guys never have to worry about that kind of thing, as they're diesels and diesels don't blow up
I'm going to have to agree with Krewat, next time you blow up a motor with your modifications why don't you go ask Ford directly if they would foot the bill, and when they say no, you should probably ask them why not and mention that your dealer does it all the time for you, might be a good idea to throw in the name of the dealer as well
And just to get things back on track: Powerstroke guys never have to worry about that kind of thing, as they're diesels and diesels don't blow up
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Same thing with the stick shift.
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Nitrous bent a rod? No it didn't. I don't buy one part of this story. Nitrous may burn pistons of it's too lean or burn the ground strap off a spark plug, and if you feed it too much you may blow a head gasket, but there's no way I beleive it bent a rod. Please scan ANYTHING that shows the parts replaced by the dealer. Or how about just posting your dealer's phone number and let me call them.
Actually this makes sence. Nitrous didn't bend the rod, that's why Ford paid for it. If the mods didn't cause the problem, then the manufacture has to pay for it. In this case I agree the juice didn't do it, so the rod was probably bad before hand. Sure the Nitrous might have made it fail prematurely, but it certainly didn't bend a perfectly fine rod.
Just like any mod, Ford (or any manufacture) can only deny your claim if the mod directly caused the problem. In this case the the mods didn't directly cause the problem. The engine should have been covered under warranty.
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personally, I got the V10 because I couldn't see the reason to pay $7k more for an engine that will get only 3-4 mpg better on fuel that cost more. The diesel added nothing for towing capacity and payload.
Is the PSD a better engine? Yes, plain and simple it is better in almost every way you can measure it except one, initial cost. So why get a $7k option you don't need? Yeah the diesel guy laugh at my power output and mpg, but my truck cost $31k out the door, how much did they spend on this massively depreciating asset?
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With a much longer warranty, more usable power curve, and easier maintenance! Where's YOUR oil filter? 
$35K out the door for mine brand new just over a year ago. This is the first new vehicle I've never been upside down on. A month ago KBB valued mine at $33K for private party sale!
Originally Posted by Jrfish007
So why get a $7k option you don't need? Yeah the diesel guy laugh at my power output and mpg, but my truck cost $31k out the door, how much did they spend on this massively depreciating asset?
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But I have a wider power curve!
It is not easier to maintain
Under the truck, right by the drain plug.
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All PSDs have the 100,000 mile Navistar engine warranty.
Originally Posted by bill11012
It is not easier to maintain
My drain plug is facing straight down rather than at a funny angle, meaning I catch ALL of the oil the first time.