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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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i feel like this thread is just a dick measuring contest. to me all that matters is respecting how both engines are ford tough and will get your load wherever you want to take it. who cares if one engine does it alittle easier or faster, bottom line is its a ford
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
I mean if the v-10 are so "badass" why doesn't ford produce more v-10's then psd?

The dealers don't stock them becuase of the low price.If they talked them up like the Hemi and made it a $4,000 option they would have sold way more, IMO.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by eff two fifty
i feel like this thread is just a dick measuring contest. to me all that matters is respecting how both engines are ford tough and will get your load wherever you want to take it. who cares if one engine does it alittle easier or faster, bottom line is its a ford
You know I think the same way but these bozo's with v-10's think there engines are the greatest on this earth and think they are better then the psd just irratating. They are like nagging wifes. They tell you something that you know is not true but they keep nagging and nagging until you just say screw it you're right just to shut them up.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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More ASSumptions. You have no idea what Ford's durability testing of the modular series engines is like.
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Ok, with your ASSumptions. Honestly, how many 300k+ mile 7.3's have you pulled the heads off of???? How many V10's actually make it to 300k miles with the stock heads, valve train, injectors, etc??? i have seen the inside of a few PSD with high miles and every one of them showed perfect cylinder walls.. even one of my buddy's that cracked the block around 500hp still had perfect cylinder walls.

Nobody here can ever say that a gas engine will make it as long as a diesel. everyone knows that the faster an engine spins the more its going to wear.. a diesel spins a lot slower than gassers do therefore they last longer. 300k miles on a gasser that has worked it's whole life and never had the heads or oil pan pulled is hard to find and if you do it needs a rebuild in a bad way. my truck has 313k miles, still a daily driver, still drag races, still makes hard dyno pulls of 380+hp and still has the stock turbo and never had the heads or oil pan pulled off... How come i hear of so many blown STOCK V10's anyways? Most of the blown up diesels i hear of being blown up are 500+hp engines or are PMR rodded 7.3s that ppl upgraded too far with poor tuning.


On Edit: the thread is simply called V10 vs PSD. anyone here got time slips from the drag strip in a V10? modded, not modded, i don't care. i just wanna see time slips.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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I have only heard of one blown stock V10 that had the right oil run in it.
The V10 can and will last every bit as long as the 7.3.
There are alot of them on here with 300,000+ miles that still run like new. There's a 5.4 thats got close to 1,300,000 miles on it thats never had the pan or vavle covers off. Still gets used all day every day too.

I have seen tons of taxis and cop cars that have 4.6s that have been beat to hell, idled all the time and run fine at 400,000 miles with the crown vic around them trashed.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
I have only heard of one blown stock V10 that had the right oil run in it.
The V10 can and will last every bit as long as the 7.3.
There are alot of them on here with 300,000+ miles that still run like new. There's a 5.4 thats got close to 1,300,000 miles on it thats never had the pan or vavle covers off. Still gets used all day every day too.

I have seen tons of taxis and cop cars that have 4.6s that have been beat to hell, idled all the time and run fine at 400,000 miles with the crown vic around them trashed.
Wow this is new to me. When did they make super duty's with the 4.6?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
I have only heard of one blown stock V10 that had the right oil run in it.
The V10 can and will last every bit as long as the 7.3.
There are alot of them on here with 300,000+ miles that still run like new. There's a 5.4 thats got close to 1,300,000 miles on it thats never had the pan or vavle covers off. Still gets used all day every day too.

I have seen tons of taxis and cop cars that have 4.6s that have been beat to hell, idled all the time and run fine at 400,000 miles with the crown vic around them trashed.
I personally blew up a stock 4.6 at 53k miles in a crown vic at work. oil was fine and it was maintained well. i made sure they changed the oil every 3k miles and kept up with all the fluids everyday on it like we're supposed to. it threw a rod and screwed up a lot of stuff.. i had drove it from 7AM and at around 12:30 is when it popped.

there is a guy on another forum i'm part of that has blown up 5 V10's in one truck and it doesn't even have 400k miles on it yet.. One of those blew with only 10k miles on it. he pulls real heavy with it daily just like his 7.3. his 7.3 has 250k miles IIRC and never had the VC's off.. just some of what i've seen. what i've seen and what someone else has seen will always be different tho so no sense in arguing about that.

I think someone needs to show me all these 300k mile V10s that have never had the valve covers taken off...
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Wow this is new to me. When did they make super duty's with the 4.6?
NEVER. the 4.6 is the same design tho basically. he said taxis and cop cars
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Wow this is new to me. When did they make super duty's with the 4.6?
4.6,5.4 and 6.8 are all the same basic engine.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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The V10 guys who aren't claiming a better towing engine than a 7.3l, you are sensible-ignore this

Other V10's

Get yourself one of these


And load it with some of these


You should be 20,000 pounds or a little more on the trailer

Now hook it on to your truck and the trailer is on 90% of truck's drive time. You tow this setup to the tune of 30,000 miles a year. Now if you think your V10 can "hang with" a stock 7.3l in terms of truck life, ease of towing, mpg, or just plain pulling, then it is time to lay off whatever you are on.

I, however, do think the V10 is a good option for people who tow infrequently, put on few miles, drive empty, etc.

FYI we have two 7.3l that are used as laid out above.
 

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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
there is a guy on another forum i'm part of that has blown up 5 V10's in one truck and it doesn't even have 400k miles on it yet.. One of those blew with only 10k miles on it...
I have read his posts. He as full of crap as can be.

They don't just blow up towing 15K at WOT like he claims the V10s are doing. He is either a liar,something is very wrong with the remans they are using, they are running wrong oil and filter or the mechanic is doing somthing very wrong.

Trust me, if the V10s or 4.6s were week in the least I would have killed both of mine by now. My 4.6 has seen more abuse than you can imagine. The V10 has spent hours at a time over 4,000 RPM and close to half an hour at a time WOT before. I just checked the commpresion during a plug change and its great.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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my trubo 6.9 out pull bills v10 any day of the week
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three

Get yourself one of these


And load it with some of these


You should be 20,000 pounds or a little more on the trailer

Now hook it on to your truck and the trailer is on 90% of truck's drive time. You tow this setup to the tune of 30,000 miles a year. Now if you think your V10 can "hang with" a stock 7.3l in terms of truck life, ease of towing, mpg, or just plain pulling, then it is time to lay off whatever you are on.
The V10 will beat the 7.3 in every way other than MPGs.

I would love to do that 30,000 miles or more a year.
$1 a mile and if I am having to load and unload its more.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by joe f350
my trubo 6.9 out pull bills v10 any day of the week
Yes, I am sure your 170HP 335TQ IDI with 37s and 3.55s will out pull my 310HP 435TQ V10 with 3.73s and 285s( 32.6s).
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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wait till i mill the pistion dps injector wet injector kit and 20 + pounds of bost
 
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