Haha... yep, that sounds like Summersville. I've talked to some tourists from Canada and they said the travel agencies up there specfically warn people traveling this way about Summersville.

I'm in Pocahontas County, near Snowshoe. About 2hrs from Summersville.

 

That's funny lol. The one in Summersville is one of the big advertising signs on the side of the road that cost the guy $350,000 to put up. Here is an article about it. They don't show a picture of it(the one in the picture is a sticker on his business door). Man Fights West Virginia Speed Trap with Signs The section of road is only about a mile or so long, but they write about 10,000-18,000 tickets per year(50 per day). Honestly, if you get a ticket there, you deserve it. They have flashing signs that say reduced speed ahead, it's painted on the road, that huge sign warns you AND you can see the 5 cop cars sitting in the median.......

 

Ahh, that's one of the few places in WV I haven't been. Pocohontas, Ohio, Brooke and Hancock are the only counties I haven't been to.

 

depends on which PSD your talking about i guess. i favor the 7.3L obviously. i know they are getting up there in mileage, but you can pick up a truck like mine for $3000, rebuild the engine w/ some performance goodies included for around $3500 and have a $6500, 400hp, tow pig..

 

And how long do you think that 7.3 will lasting towing heavy loads and putting out 400HP? Not long, I can tell you that now.

 

I agree on the ratings not meaning crap part. I agree that my 7.3 gets a lot better mpg's than my 5.4(or a v10). My most recent tanks were 19.5 for my 7.3 and 14.6 for my 5.4. Even with diesel being higher it still comes out cheaper to drive it. What I don't agree with is that a 7.3 with a 4.10 can outpull a v10 with a 4.10. Can it hold OD on a hill with a load easier than a v10? Yeah, but there is more to that than towing. If my 7.3 with a 4.10 can't outpull my 5.4 with a 4.10 then how is it going to outpull a v10?

The problem a lot of PSD guys(myself included) have when towing with a gasser is that we try to drive it just like we drive our PSD and when it doesn't perform the same way we talk about what a pig it is. For example, one of the roads leaving my house is a 15% grade with a 25 mph speed limit. When I am towing with my 7.3 I pull out in 1st, run it to about 3k rpm and shift to 2nd and then hold it around 2,500 in 2nd for the rest of the climb. With my 5.4 I do the same thing and it struggles compared to my 7.3. So I badmouth my 5.4, say it can't tow crap, etc, meanwhile I am barely even running it to peak tq much less peak hp. All I have to do is give it a little more gas and run it up to 3,500 rpm and it runs off and leaves my 7.3 Since I can't turn 3,500 in my 7.3 I have to shift to 3rd, where it becomes a bit sluggish. Then I can go even farther and run my 5.4 to 4,500 rpm where it pulls even stronger. Driving them the same style, it's no comparison. The 7.3 will outpull a v10 all day long, but drive each of them to what best suits their potential and it won't even pull with a 5.4.

 

almost 800,000 even with nitrous! The simpler design makes them last.
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Okay, looking back at your post:

Is your fuel economy the same as what Ford had it rated on your window sticker??? i doubt mine does... ratings don't mean ***** in the real world. How bout a 7.3 with 4.10's(REAL WORLD) and a V10 with 4.10's? then you can actually test what the engine can do and that keeps the V10 close to what it needs to be able to pull it's own weight.

Modern 3/4 and 1 ton trucks don't come with mpg ratings.
Do the tow rating matter? They are Ford suggestion on what you can safely tow. They may not have a legal basis, but Ford did not just make them up. lets put it this way, what does matter for towing is the GVWR, do you really think that will go up just because I have a PSD? Nope, so who can tow more? Niether, they can pretty much tow the same amount. Just one has to work harder than the other.

I only argue it b/c of this... my truck has 314k miles on it. it's been a work truck since day one. i have it now and i know the only things that have been changed.. brakes, ICP sensor, IPR o-rings, injector o-rings needed changed @ 265k miles, fuel pump, and the DMF was changed @ 250k miles and still wasn't going out(just changed as mainainence). seems like a cheap truck to me... other stuff i've done were just upgrades

I fail to see how this has anything to do with what I said. You have a used truck, I have a new truck, of course they are going to be different in costs. I have no doubt the 7.3 can go to 314k miles. In fact I would say yours is relatively fresh. I know people who put well over 500k on their 7.3 all towing 15k lb trailers.

never said a V10 couldn't pull what i could did i??? just said your engine will work a lot harder than mine and mileage will suffer. If i want to tow my drag truck i don't want my truck having to work it's a$$ off the whole way.. we have lots of hills around here.. So obviously a diesel suits my needs best. nice to drive daily getting 21mpg unloaded, makes good power right around 400hp/900tq, tows anything i need to tow in a very light tune, and fun to play with on the drag strip.

You may not have said it, but it has been infered in many different ways. truth is I haven't found a V10 owner yet (other than Bill ) that will say their V10 is a superior engine to the PSD in anyway other than cost. Yes you can get better mpg, but I could careless about mpg. I drive 7,000 miles year, my fuel savings had I got a PSD would have been around $200 a year. You make more power, my V10 makes plenty of power for what I need, we already talked about towing, I don't go to the drag strip with my truck.

I don't tow much really... this truck has had the easy life since i've had it i think. it was a pure work truck for the first 250k miles of it's life.. I don't tow much. it's mostly just a DD to get me to work and back. the 6.8 that i test drove a few months ago didn't show to get anywhere near that mixed between city/highway. it was full of fuel when we took it out(my buddy works at the dealership and had just put fuel in it) and he filled it up afterwards... it got 16mpg..

Your comparing a modded turbo truck that puts out almost twice the power it did factory to a stock N/A truck... Did you expect something different? And I don't think anyone is going to argue that the PSD get better mpg.

EDIT: BTW way prior to my V10 I had a 7.3. It had 180k, and the engine was running good. Problem was the rest of the 14 year old truck was falling apart. As I mentioned earlier, I tried to find a 7.3 before I bought my V10, but could find a clean truck that wasn't over $20k. Sorry, I won't pay $20k for an 7-8 year old truck with close to 100k miles when mine was $30k and came with a 60k mile 5 year warranty.

 

He doesn't tow much, so it will probably last a long time sense 95% of time he isn't using anything near 400 hp.

 

If you don't tow much, then it will probably last plenty long with 400HP.

 

[/QUOTE]: BTW way prior to my V10 I had a 7.3. It had 180k, and the engine was running good. Problem was the rest of the 14 year old truck was falling apart. As I mentioned earlier, I tried to find a 7.3 before I bought my V10, but could find a clean truck that wasn't over $20k. Sorry, I won't pay $20k for an 7-8 year old truck with close to 100k miles when mine was $30k and came with a 60k mile 5 year warranty.[/QUOTE]

I was lucky enough to find an 02 7.3 cc lb 4x4 with a suncoast tranny, all the upgrades you could possibly need, 100,000 miles and the previous owner was so **** that he waxed the thing every week. People look at it and think its a used 07 right out of the dealer ship. Just by seeing how well the guy maintained it, we weren't even hesitant on spending $21k for it.

 

My V10 didn't some with fuel economy ratings on the sticker

My '96 t-bird and my '97 cougar, with the 4.6L modular motors, both exceeded the rated highway mileage quoted at 25MPGs on the sticker. They both would get at least 26 if I was careful.

 

wow... waxed every week, I think I'm good doing it once a month. I suppose if I found a perfect one, but coming from Ohio, all most every 7-8 year old truck has some rust from all the salt. There are a coupld here and there that aren't driven in the winter, but they are normally 4x2.

 

He got that truck with over 700k miles on it then later did tuning, nitrous, propane and etc. If he would have left the engine stock he probably could have gotten over 1 million miles out of it.