The HHO injection thread
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Finally got my plates yesterday so now to assy... One of the first things I'm going to do is to take power right of the alternator output stud with the rest of the car system being fed thru a 100A blocking diode. I'll have no power to the electrolizer unless the alternator is turning and it will be pulsing related to alternator speed..... It will be interesting to see what effect this has on voltage regulation and charging on the car ( merc w123 non turbo 300d) , this one first then the E350/6.9!
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NO, HHO or Brown's gas, whatever you wanna call it, does not exist. Electrolysis of water makes H2 and O2. You are not inventing a new form of matter (Brown's gas) and Brown's gas is just a mythical gas he made up. Brown's products and patents for them used Hydrogen and Oxygen. This is exactly what I'm talking about!
If you did actually create Brown's gas you would be receiving a Nobel prize shortly, and it would rock the foundations of science.
If you did actually create Brown's gas you would be receiving a Nobel prize shortly, and it would rock the foundations of science.
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twtcad, thats ok! i have dislexick (spelling) fingers also LOL!......
I just got back from my local diesel emissions testing center and what i have been told would happen has happened! my exhaust is 75-80% cleaner! they ran my truck through the normal state required test criteria on the dynomometer and without the HHO running my truck was at passing levels but with the HHO running it was between 75 and 80% less opacity which as told to me by the certified diesel mechanic that did the test that is 75-80% cleaner exhaust!
They dont break it down in levels of CO, CO2, NOx, and Hydrocarbons but the bottom line is less spent fuel out the tail pipe!
This is fabulous data to have and with the MPG's i have been seeing in my truck i could not be happier!
Just wanted to tell pass this along!
I just got back from my local diesel emissions testing center and what i have been told would happen has happened! my exhaust is 75-80% cleaner! they ran my truck through the normal state required test criteria on the dynomometer and without the HHO running my truck was at passing levels but with the HHO running it was between 75 and 80% less opacity which as told to me by the certified diesel mechanic that did the test that is 75-80% cleaner exhaust!
They dont break it down in levels of CO, CO2, NOx, and Hydrocarbons but the bottom line is less spent fuel out the tail pipe!
This is fabulous data to have and with the MPG's i have been seeing in my truck i could not be happier!
Just wanted to tell pass this along!
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twtcad, thats ok! i have dislexick (spelling) fingers also LOL!......
I just got back from my local diesel emissions testing center and what i have been told would happen has happened! my exhaust is 75-80% cleaner! they ran my truck through the normal state required test criteria on the dynomometer and without the HHO running my truck was at passing levels but with the HHO running it was between 75 and 80% less opacity which as told to me by the certified diesel mechanic that did the test that is 75-80% cleaner exhaust!
They dont break it down in levels of CO, CO2, NOx, and Hydrocarbons but the bottom line is less spent fuel out the tail pipe!
This is fabulous data to have and with the MPG's i have been seeing in my truck i could not be happier!
Just wanted to tell pass this along!
I just got back from my local diesel emissions testing center and what i have been told would happen has happened! my exhaust is 75-80% cleaner! they ran my truck through the normal state required test criteria on the dynomometer and without the HHO running my truck was at passing levels but with the HHO running it was between 75 and 80% less opacity which as told to me by the certified diesel mechanic that did the test that is 75-80% cleaner exhaust!
They dont break it down in levels of CO, CO2, NOx, and Hydrocarbons but the bottom line is less spent fuel out the tail pipe!
This is fabulous data to have and with the MPG's i have been seeing in my truck i could not be happier!
Just wanted to tell pass this along!
That is good news! It sure whould be nice to have a detailed breakdown as so often it is suprising what they consider "clean". I suppose that if nothing else we are hoping for comes to pass, at least we will make the environment a little less dirty.
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In my limited experience, even if it reduced the emissions to zero, you'd still have to have all the OEM pollution controls installed and functioning to be legal.
When I moved to Texas, I had to install a catalytic converter on my old clunker car even though it had just done better than the new-car California emissions standards in the Washington state test. When I mentioned that, they just laughed at me and said "no cat, no sticker".
When I moved to Texas, I had to install a catalytic converter on my old clunker car even though it had just done better than the new-car California emissions standards in the Washington state test. When I mentioned that, they just laughed at me and said "no cat, no sticker".
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In my limited experience, even if it reduced the emissions to zero, you'd still have to have all the OEM pollution controls installed and functioning to be legal.
When I moved to Texas, I had to install a catalytic converter on my old clunker car even though it had just done better than the new-car California emissions standards in the Washington state test. When I mentioned that, they just laughed at me and said "no cat, no sticker".
When I moved to Texas, I had to install a catalytic converter on my old clunker car even though it had just done better than the new-car California emissions standards in the Washington state test. When I mentioned that, they just laughed at me and said "no cat, no sticker".
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"no cat, no sticker".......bring in an factory converted electric ford ranger and then lets see what he has to say, they know they have you by the ***** and sure like to let you know.
I remember reading that there are ways to get around these rules using legal loop holes if the emissions are equal to or better than OEM specs. With some research I think it would be possible. But in my case, my truck never had a cat, EGR or that idiotic DPF system, so its not a problem for me. My other truck is propane so no problem there either. But some emissions testing are being phased out in BC because newer vehicles are lasting so long without requiring attention to prevent bad emissions. The "AirCare" program is already set to expire because its not really needed anymore. Testing was never done on the island though.
I remember reading that there are ways to get around these rules using legal loop holes if the emissions are equal to or better than OEM specs. With some research I think it would be possible. But in my case, my truck never had a cat, EGR or that idiotic DPF system, so its not a problem for me. My other truck is propane so no problem there either. But some emissions testing are being phased out in BC because newer vehicles are lasting so long without requiring attention to prevent bad emissions. The "AirCare" program is already set to expire because its not really needed anymore. Testing was never done on the island though.
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I'll let the OEMs continue to run down the road of giving us more complex emissions systems that we must pay them to repair , since they'll go that direction anyway.
Milehighhydroguy,
When did you change oil last?
If your tailpipe emissions are 75-80% cleaner, there's probably less soot in the engine oil too. I'm wondering about the possibility of extended oil drain intervals for your engine oil. I used to work in an oil lab (Certifed by CAT) where they checked oil samples and recommended changing oil or continuing to use the same oil for a period that was longer than the factory suggested.
If running partially on water allows me to save on oil changes by not changing it as often, that's just another bonus on top of the savings at the pump.
If you could monitor your oil, I'm sure there would be some interest in that too.
, since they'll go that direction anyway.Milehighhydroguy,
When did you change oil last?
If your tailpipe emissions are 75-80% cleaner, there's probably less soot in the engine oil too. I'm wondering about the possibility of extended oil drain intervals for your engine oil. I used to work in an oil lab (Certifed by CAT) where they checked oil samples and recommended changing oil or continuing to use the same oil for a period that was longer than the factory suggested.
If running partially on water allows me to save on oil changes by not changing it as often, that's just another bonus on top of the savings at the pump.
If you could monitor your oil, I'm sure there would be some interest in that too.
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"no cat, no sticker".......bring in an factory converted electric ford ranger and then lets see what he has to say, they know they have you by the ***** and sure like to let you know.
I remember reading that there are ways to get around these rules using legal loop holes if the emissions are equal to or better than OEM specs. With some research I think it would be possible. But in my case, my truck never had a cat, EGR or that idiotic DPF system, so its not a problem for me. My other truck is propane so no problem there either. But some emissions testing are being phased out in BC because newer vehicles are lasting so long without requiring attention to prevent bad emissions. The "AirCare" program is already set to expire because its not really needed anymore. Testing was never done on the island though.
I remember reading that there are ways to get around these rules using legal loop holes if the emissions are equal to or better than OEM specs. With some research I think it would be possible. But in my case, my truck never had a cat, EGR or that idiotic DPF system, so its not a problem for me. My other truck is propane so no problem there either. But some emissions testing are being phased out in BC because newer vehicles are lasting so long without requiring attention to prevent bad emissions. The "AirCare" program is already set to expire because its not really needed anymore. Testing was never done on the island though.
I'm getting all worked up for nothing and this is off topic, I'll shutup now.
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Yeah I'll drop the emissions topic too.
Since I can't find KOH locally, I will try to find it online and order it that way. So what do you think if this product? Is this what I need?
https://www.saltcitysoapworks.com/st...on=show_detail
Since I can't find KOH locally, I will try to find it online and order it that way. So what do you think if this product? Is this what I need?
https://www.saltcitysoapworks.com/st...on=show_detail
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This is what I got
2 Lbs. Heavy Duty Crystal Drain Opener
This is at lowes and other hardware stores have it to just make sure its 100%
Have anothe question that youall may be able to help me with... everyone says HHO is not real... correct me if i am wrong but is not water H2O--- 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen there for giving you HHO????????????? What am I missing????????
2 Lbs. Heavy Duty Crystal Drain Opener
This is at lowes and other hardware stores have it to just make sure its 100%
Have anothe question that youall may be able to help me with... everyone says HHO is not real... correct me if i am wrong but is not water H2O--- 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen there for giving you HHO????????????? What am I missing????????