The HHO injection thread
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Hi all,
I have been busy so i have not had time to stop in lately! If i could post a pic i would showing how i ran the buss bars on my 7 cell units. what i did was have + at one end of the unit on the outside plate (plate 1), - at the other end on the outside plate (plate 14) and bussed 2 plates together in this order, 2,3 then 4,5, then 6,7 then 8,9 then 10,11 and finally 12,13
Someone tell me where i get permission to post pics here as my list of permissions say i MAY NOT post attachments!
I have been busy so i have not had time to stop in lately! If i could post a pic i would showing how i ran the buss bars on my 7 cell units. what i did was have + at one end of the unit on the outside plate (plate 1), - at the other end on the outside plate (plate 14) and bussed 2 plates together in this order, 2,3 then 4,5, then 6,7 then 8,9 then 10,11 and finally 12,13
Someone tell me where i get permission to post pics here as my list of permissions say i MAY NOT post attachments!
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Hey milehigh.............if you go to your "User CP" on the left side you should see "Edit Gallery" go there and you should be able to create an album. Once you've uploaded your pics you can get "Forum Codes - to display images" then post the link in your post and whola......we see pics.
I made some great progress w/ mine yesterday. I put my unit back to gether and connected it to a battery and charger and tested production. Now unfortunately it was a bad test because the charger did not give constant current. Hopefully today I'll have time to connect it to the truck w/ it running to get an accurate test. W/ the charge cycled on I got around 9vlts. and when it cycled off I was getting between 2-5vlts. My flow rate was just under a liter per minute. So I'm hoping I'll do much better connected to the truck! I'll let you know............
Also if I have time today before the afternoon thunderstorms I plan to figure out the mounting setup for it. Once I have then made it's time for the real test!
I made some great progress w/ mine yesterday. I put my unit back to gether and connected it to a battery and charger and tested production. Now unfortunately it was a bad test because the charger did not give constant current. Hopefully today I'll have time to connect it to the truck w/ it running to get an accurate test. W/ the charge cycled on I got around 9vlts. and when it cycled off I was getting between 2-5vlts. My flow rate was just under a liter per minute. So I'm hoping I'll do much better connected to the truck! I'll let you know............
Also if I have time today before the afternoon thunderstorms I plan to figure out the mounting setup for it. Once I have then made it's time for the real test!
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Oh and Marianna.....your not rambling that is great info and is why I have the neutral plates to keep the voltage divided to around 2vlts per cell. At least that is what my buddy's math told us...........
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If you see (n----+----n) doesn't mean that each ( - ) is a pair of plates... there may be some difference here in interpretation. Those people however using switch plate covers may interpret it that way. While I'm still waiting for my plates from an EBAY vendor under "fuel cells" I have gotten some good ideas already. I retired from a major airline and could have accessed needed materials and banged test#1 out in no time but living up here in the boonies it'll take longer.
If your experiencing to much current flow the first thing you'd want to do is to weaken the electrolyte not necessarily add more (-) plates or increase the spacing.
If your experiencing to much current flow the first thing you'd want to do is to weaken the electrolyte not necessarily add more (-) plates or increase the spacing.
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lowell.....you have to copy the entire img string. Should like similar to this except xx will be tt plus your photo number.......
[img]hxxp://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=191673&.jpg[/img]
[img]hxxp://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=191673&.jpg[/img]
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Well I tested on the truck....at the battery I'm showing between 13.4-14.2 volts w/ the truck running. I connected my unit to the truck w/ amp meter in line and I have a 1 volt drop between the battery and the terminals at my unit. Inserted 30amp fuse and immediately my 20amp gauge was pegged. I made just over a 1 liter per minute and somewhere in the 10 to 15min range is when the fuse blew. I can not measure amps w/ my Sears Multi-meter so I will have to get a larger amp gauge. Also my wires were very hot, damn near melted the fuse when it blew, so I need a major wire upgrade. I'm guessing I had around 1 tsp of lye....the other day I had 1tbsp, but blew the 30amp fuse, so I dumped the water out and mixed it w/ another gallon of distilled water so I figured after I put half of that back in my unit it was 1 tsp.....right? Anyways.....after all of that I'm hoping to be able to mount it in the truck so I can see if 1 LPM will do anything for me.
Has anybody else tried 1 LPM in their truck yet? We know from milehigh that 4-5 LPM gained him 5mpg.........
Has anybody else tried 1 LPM in their truck yet? We know from milehigh that 4-5 LPM gained him 5mpg.........
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multipurpose post!!
Thanks Dave... I was just clickin like a chicken hoping something would work...
@10 stranded wire would be pretty much in order...and starting with weaker electrolyte, it would be pretty easy to add a little more later. My first cylindrical one, abs or pvc , abs I believe will stand higher temps...I may have to flip a coin on that unless what I find in end pieces makes one or the other more interesting.
Heard these will be out soon in your local Autozone... California Headlines Hot HHO car fries occupants prompts legislature to make illegal (to protect the innocent oil companies bottom line). Later National Headline: The Department of Homeland security has announced the numbers of illicit home HHO generators has now outnumbered meth labs... deeply concerning President McCain and the IRS... and global warming keeps marching west....
@10 stranded wire would be pretty much in order...and starting with weaker electrolyte, it would be pretty easy to add a little more later. My first cylindrical one, abs or pvc , abs I believe will stand higher temps...I may have to flip a coin on that unless what I find in end pieces makes one or the other more interesting.
Heard these will be out soon in your local Autozone... California Headlines Hot HHO car fries occupants prompts legislature to make illegal (to protect the innocent oil companies bottom line). Later National Headline: The Department of Homeland security has announced the numbers of illicit home HHO generators has now outnumbered meth labs... deeply concerning President McCain and the IRS... and global warming keeps marching west....
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I used the tall thin bubbler as a spark arrestor under the hood after i added foam inside it and built a new larger bubbler to keep the water out of the line and to accept the upcoming 10LPM i am shooting for when my PWM electronics arrive.
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hey milehighhydoguy, I see that you have 2 plates per cell. how do you have your system wired? Also i was playing around with mine today (7 plate unit). It was pulling 20 amps--- i took electrical tape and wraped around it leaving the top and bottom open trying to keep the electric going through the plates not around them and the amps dropped to 9.5 amps. seems like gas did drop off some but i like the amp drop because i could run 2 units for the same amps now.
Also I found this page that has some very nice links at the bottom.
aussie.astro2 - Welcome to AUSSIE_ASTRO'S Web Site! MY HHO electrolysis cellMY PHOTOS storage site
Also I found this page that has some very nice links at the bottom.
aussie.astro2 - Welcome to AUSSIE_ASTRO'S Web Site! MY HHO electrolysis cellMY PHOTOS storage site