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OK, its a bit crude, but it will be effective and I made it out of scrap I had laying around, and an idle mind... The center pipe, under the plate, is 2" galv. steel pipe and fits exactly over the center of the jack lift. The two pieces of angle steel, welded to the pipe, fit along side the jack lift, and bolt through the sides of the lift support. The plate on top has 4 holes to bolt to the Xfer case where the large flat place is on the bottom side of the case... Not having access to a transmission lift, this is my Mexican invention out of what was available.. It took all of an hour to make, and while not professional, it will work well enough..
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OK, its a bit crude, but it will be effective and I made it out of scrap I had laying around, and an idle mind... The center pipe, under the plate, is 2" galv. steel pipe and fits exactly over the center of the jack lift. The two pieces of angle steel, welded to the pipe, fit along side the jack lift, and bolt through the sides of the lift support. The plate on top has 4 holes to bolt to the Xfer case where the large flat place is on the bottom side of the case... Not having access to a transmission lift, this is my Mexican invention out of what was available.. It took all of an hour to make, and while not professional, it will work well enough..
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Back about 10yrs ago found this on C/L when doing the nv4500 install found a nos steel black heavy cradle tranny lift bracket from the 80's that mounts into a floor jack once the steel dish lifting pad cup is removed.
The cradle will tilt 3ways. Has a chain that is support to hold it from sliding off.
I still used a 4x6'' block of would cut at a 45*angle to keep it at the correct installing angle and just raised it up an bolted it in.
Used new grade 8 bolts plus installs a three yokes with new ones along with new pinch nuts added some RTV on the washer & spline so no lube will leaks their.
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The cradle will tilt 3ways. Has a chain that is support to hold it from sliding off.
I still used a 4x6'' block of would cut at a 45*angle to keep it at the correct installing angle and just raised it up an bolted it in.
Used new grade 8 bolts plus installs a three yokes with new ones along with new pinch nuts added some RTV on the washer & spline so no lube will leaks their.
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I found a thread... talking about using this 50W oil for the Dana Transfer Case. So I picked some up today at O'Reilly Auto Parts. They had it in stock. It's 50W racing oil... any thoughts - good or bad? For the tranfer case, we do need to make sure no oil goes in the case that would cause corrosion. On a diff thread they were talking about being somewhat selective with the oil for the transfer case. Thoughts?
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As I understand it, the Dana 20 and the similar Dana 24 were originally called out by Ford to require a 50w non detergent motor oil.
This may be hard to find.
Some people report no ill results using 85-90 W gear oil instead.
This may be hard to find.
Some people report no ill results using 85-90 W gear oil instead.
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McLeod you hit it right on the head! According to my Ford assembly Manual "Transfer Case - Dana 24 SAE50 Engine Oil (ESE-M2C39-A)" 4.5 pints. I was thinking it was 90W gear oil only.
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From: La Ribera, Baja, Mexico
I have had my 1968 F250 4x4 for 48 years now, and purchased it 2nd hand, from a neighbor, with only 3750 miles on it, when it was almost 2 years old. Dec 1969, and it is still running, with the hypoid 90W gear oil that was recommended back then. Not sure about the 50W motor oil in a gear case?? 710,134 miles on the old boy now, 3rd engine rebuild, 2nd tranny rebuild, and just swapped in my spare Xfer case, for the 3rd go round on that. 85/90W gear oil in the front differential, NP 435 trans, Dana 24 TC, and rear differential. It came with that gear oil in it, and it seems to have worked all this time. Maybe something has changed in the world of gear oils, I do not know about that, but I know that 90W gear oil has worked for the 48 years I have had my truck, but we are both retired to a warm climate now, and that may have some affect, or effect, (I never know which of them to use), but your local temperatures could require thinner oils in colder weathers. I know this though, I move better when I warm up.. maybe trucks to do..
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Not the official Ford or DANA resource but taken from official Ford publications or specifications list:
https://torqueking.com/ford-full-siz...r-case-fluids/
https://torqueking.com/ford-full-siz...r-case-fluids/
*Ford Gear Drive Transfer Case 1959-1977: Many Ford Shop Manuals will List SAE 50 Engine Oil for use in temperatures Above 10°F and SAE 30 Engine Oil for use in below 10°F. Very early manuals ALSO give the option of using SAE 90 weight mineral oil WITHOUT extreme pressure additives Above 10°F and SAE 80 Mineral Oil without EP additives for use in below 10°F. Single viscosity SAE 50 and SAE 30 motor oils are still readily available, but finding straight mineral gear oil today might be difficult. Dana 20, Dana 21, Dana 24, and NP205 gear drive transfer cases have some latitude for alternate fluids, but we recommend you stick as close as possible to the original Ford fluid requirements.
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From: La Ribera, Baja, Mexico
Love that support... and your jack...that looks stable. Wish I had access to a jack like that in Baja... We really need an automotive supply place with tools like Northern Hardware carries... nothing like that in Baja...
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Oh, we all wish that would work... but some of the time, you end up paying the shipping, duty, and duty not only on the item's cost, but duty on the shipping, and then you get the empty box, if some customs clown wants your tool, or thinks he can steal and sell it .... Its a 3rd world country, and part of the pleasure of living there, is exercising your inventive brain, to outwit the customs clowns.. We are sooooooooo spoiled here in the USA... which I refer to as the "Land of Plenty"... plenty of things, plenty of people, plenty of traffic. plenty of things you may or may not need... We come North of the border, which is a 1000 mile drive, on a narrow 2 lane country road, several times a year, and load the vehicle with things hard to get in Baja... simple things mostly, like cocktail sauce, for shrimp... not available most days in Baja.. We make our own, but you need horseradish.. also not available... so, its quiet, beautiful, but not everything is available, unless you drive NOrth and get it...
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