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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 01:24 PM
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What is Molly XL grease? Book says to use Molly XL grease on the parts. I do not recall from b4 but sure I bought something. Remind me on putting the hub back together what grease do I use and do I put a little gear oil in there? Thxs!
The Molly XL grease was Graphite grease. Best around back in those days. The above mentioned greases would be fine.
The back side of your red **** is broken. There are supposed to be a hole in either side of the back of it that holds a pin that goes across.
D2TZ1A029A......****
D2TZ1A021A......PAPER LOCK OUT HOUSING GASKET
D2TZ1A021B......ALUMINUM LOCK OUT HOUSING GASKET.

Dennis Carpenter Ford has the 1A029 ***** and the 1A021 paper gaskets. 1-800-476-9653. DC also has the ***** in their catalog.

These Dealers show as having the D2TZ1A021B aluminum gasket.
HUDIBURG PARTS DEPOT
(MIDWEST CITY, OK)3 shown(800) 800-5963
Harr's Redfield Ford
(Redfield, SD)2 shown(605) 472-1633
Prairie Motors, Inc.
(Stanley, ND)6 shown(701) 628-2855
Sakelaris Ford of California
(California, MO)2 shown(573) 796-2147
Jack Garrett Ford, Inc.
(Spencer, WV)2 shown(304) 927-2490
 
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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 01:31 PM
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And whatever you do, never EVER EVER EVER try to unlock the hubs while it's in 4WD. The backside of the **** will break in an instant.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 02:46 PM
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And whatever you do, never EVER EVER EVER try to unlock the hubs while it's in 4WD. The backside of the **** will break in an instant.
Ahhh. THAT's what people used to do. I can't tell you how many of these ***** I sold back in the day. And they always looked like OP's pic above.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 04:01 PM
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Ahhh. THAT's what people used to do. I can't tell you how many of these ***** I sold back in the day. And they always looked like OP's pic above.
My brother bought my '74 highboy brand-new (long gone now...) - he had a set of ***** he took out after a few years, and they were cracked where that pin is. So in normal operation, they do crack.

My only recommendation is... make sure you grease the locks very well so they never ever hang up, and if they even SLIGHTLY do hang up, don't force it.

BTW - I used to see Chevies with the same hubs but the **** was blue. Just in case someone was in a jam, I bet they're the same things.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
My brother bought my '74 highboy brand-new (long gone now...) - he had a set of ***** he took out after a few years, and they were cracked where that pin is. So in normal operation, they do crack.

My only recommendation is... make sure you grease the locks very well so they never ever hang up, and if they even SLIGHTLY do hang up, don't force it.

BTW - I used to see Chevies with the same hubs but the **** was blue. Just in case someone was in a jam, I bet they're the same things.
They are. These were made by Spicer, not Ford. So were the 1/2 ton ones. I remember years ago in snow country Toledo, Ohio where I was raised, my brother bought a used 1977 Blazer for his "winter beater". It had a chebie locking hub on one side and a FORD one on the other. I laughed my rear end off at him when I saw it. Ribbed him good. I have sense then converted him to a Ford Man.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
I have sense then converted him to a Ford Man.
Well, there to go
 
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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 05:07 PM
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Oh, by the way, I used to have a set of plates that bolted on in place of the hubs for full-time 4WD versions of the highboy. I actually found a crew-cab F350 with that setup in the junkyard once (think it was a '76, with open-knuckles and discs), and took the front-end to rebuild for my '74. Don't know if it was original, but I was surprised. And took the front springs too

All long gone into the depths of a flood that passed through my sister's warehouse and destroyed everything I had stockpiled over the years.

I might actually have aluminum and paper gaskets for those hubs somewhere.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 06:40 PM
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I might actually have aluminum and paper gaskets for those hubs somewhere.
Although, now thinking about it, both the aluminum and paper were useless. Actually, the entire hub design is useless. It was like a locking hub thrown onto a great axle (full-time) that just didn't work out in the long run.

All torque going to the wheel goes through the allen-head bolts, basically. That constant torquing back and forth would ruin the aluminum and paper gaskets, causing them to leak either grease (open knuckle) or axle fluid (closed knuckle). I had some good luck with Permatex instead of the gaskets. And re-torque the allen-head bolts regularly. But the chrome-plated/pot-metal/whatever hub itself would just degrade over time.

It's one thing to restore to original (which is GREAT!) - and another thing entirely to upgrade to something more keen to being USED the way a 4WD is meant to be used.

ofc, this is all looking back at a front-end that had 200K+ on it when I got done with it, and upgraded to the open-knuckle/disc axle, and then I put another 100K+ on it. And I abused that thing in the woods and snow all the time.

Never mind, I'll stop rambling and let you get back to work
 
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Take a look at the pics I just posted. I broke the Alternator lead. Look close and you can see. Does anyone know where I can buy that wire?

Thanks everyone!
 
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Old Jun 12, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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I'm guessing that is one of those GM one wire alternators. Bare the end of the wire and crimp/solder an eyelet on the end if that wire.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2018 | 05:47 PM
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I am going to re-torque my hubs when i get back to Baja, now that you have suggested it amigo. I did use the aluminum gaskets, and put loc-tight on the threads of the allen bolts..but since I am north of the border, I will buy a allen socket so I can torque them correctly. Thanks for the tip...

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I cleaned behind the engine while the head and intake off. I have a concern about using Thread Sealer vs. RTV on the bolt threads to seal the water and oil passages. I will post that question soon.
 
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I used the ARP Thread Sealer on the head bolts to seal water passages and oil passages. Will the thread sealer work on the oil passages as well or should I use the RTV?

Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 09:02 PM
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I have never use rtv or a thread sealer on the head bolts with out any problems of water or oil leaks.
on a Fe motor. Only used oil on the threads. None of the Fe head threaded bolt holes go into the water jackets/ports then why would a thread sealer would be needed like,
a early small block chevy need.

Now one thing many guys over look when building a Fe is shaving the intake mating gasket surface to get the correct fitment.
say If the heads ever get milled/shaved over 0.020th's then the intake needs to be shaved some also. This gasket gap can be checked
with a feller gage even.

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