Engine removal pics
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Yeah. Good idea
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At this point, part of me is beginning to believe that part wasn't there before, when looking through the pics. What I've been beating my head up about, is the last time I was ever into a manual transmission equipped 6.0L. Unfortunately, there are very few of them out there.
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You know Sean, that's a very good question. Quite honestly right now, I feel like a dink. I feel like I'm holding poor Anthony up from making any forward progress, but at the same time, I'm also trying to help him address a seemingly little, but at the same time very important detail. I don't want him going back together only to do damage over a detail like this.
At this point, part of me is beginning to believe that part wasn't there before, when looking through the pics. What I've been beating my head up about, is the last time I was ever into a manual transmission equipped 6.0L. Unfortunately, there are very few of them out there.
At this point, part of me is beginning to believe that part wasn't there before, when looking through the pics. What I've been beating my head up about, is the last time I was ever into a manual transmission equipped 6.0L. Unfortunately, there are very few of them out there.
I'm on the phone with Sean now ( and have been with the past few posts). My phone lets me talk and surf. Whu hu. It looks like the rear crank seal was rubbing on the flywheel. Not holding me up at all!!!!! I appreciate all input.
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They are very close.
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I've never been in the bottom end of the engine so I am completely out of school here. The flywheel seems to have a lip similar to the dust plate. So in essence, the flywheel could also serve as the dust plate, and if that is the case, the dust plate is a spacer which *should* be irrelevant since the input shaft of the trans is going to enter the crank regardless, and as long as the splines run deep enough, shouldn't matter, spacer wise anyway.
BTW, this WOULD matter for an automatic.
BTW, this WOULD matter for an automatic.
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I must be the craziest Chinaman you guys will ever meet (but likely never shake hands with).
Anthony, look at your old flywheel mounting hole mating surface closely. Now have a look at the rear flange of your old crankshaft. Do you see a unique imprint on both sides that make it evident that the two were mated together without anything in between? If so, it looks like you never removed that piece to begin with.
Anthony, look at your old flywheel mounting hole mating surface closely. Now have a look at the rear flange of your old crankshaft. Do you see a unique imprint on both sides that make it evident that the two were mated together without anything in between? If so, it looks like you never removed that piece to begin with.
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I've never been in the bottom end of the engine so I am completely out of school here. The flywheel seems to have a lip similar to the dust plate. So in essence, the flywheel could also serve as the dust plate, and if that is the case, the dust plate is a spacer which *should* be irrelevant since the input shaft of the trans is going to enter the crank regardless, and as long as the splines run deep enough, shouldn't matter, spacer wise anyway.
I was almost going to suggest Anthony temporarily bolt up the flywheel onto the crank and temporarily bolt up the starter to the rear cover, and slide the starter gear out fully, just to see how the gear aligns with the ring gear on the flywheel. And if the gears fully mesh properly, then I guess it's good to go. But that seems like a lot of work too.
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Karl, the portion of your statement highlighted in bold red is where you are incorrect. On these engines in particular, did you not notice that the pilot bearing for the input shaft is pressed into the FLYWHEEL, NOT THE CRANKSHAFT?
I was almost going to suggest Anthony temporarily bolt up the flywheel onto the crank and temporarily bolt up the starter to the rear cover, and slide the starter gear out fully, just to see how the gear aligns with the ring gear on the flywheel. And if the gears fully mesh properly, then I guess it's good to go. But that seems like a lot of work too.
I was almost going to suggest Anthony temporarily bolt up the flywheel onto the crank and temporarily bolt up the starter to the rear cover, and slide the starter gear out fully, just to see how the gear aligns with the ring gear on the flywheel. And if the gears fully mesh properly, then I guess it's good to go. But that seems like a lot of work too.
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Of course there is. The dowel is what prevents the flywheel from being installed onto the crank other than the way it came off. Although I don't know on this particular engine, some engine applications use an external offset balance on the flywheel as well for this. The Chevy big block 454 comes to mind as an example.
