Now hang on there Jody, you mean to tell me that every engine built between 99 and 03, regardless of mileage, care, abuse and a whole lot of other conditions, will not graph out exactly like the ONE that has been repeatedly posted? That just can't be.....

 

Now I didn't think you'd stoop to THAT level...Next time check your IP before making a new name.

 

Is that statement supposed to make me angry? It won't work, you aren't to be taken seriously.

If I need to be called names or be subject to smart *** comments to get to the bottom of what seems to be a hell of a lot of untruths and misinformation, then it's worth it. There's some great info in the thread.

 

The tow tunes are set up for under load conditions. I raise the shift pionts to prevent lugging and help with better fuel economy while towing. With my newer 80e you can tow up to 8K as long as you watch egts and do not hot foot it.

 

Man, this is some of the best info I've seen yet. Thanks for posting Jody. You too, Joe. Now, if we could just keep the emotions out of it, it'd be dang near perfect!

 

Nothing like blowing your chances of joining this great forum with a comment like that, classless..

Great to know Jody, does it still got the same shift strategy as the older 80E, firm or did you smooth it out a bit to handle the possible optional 8000 towing in that tune ??

 

Wow........

 

I agree with that ! There is a lot of good information here ! Just don't like the accusations and personal attacks against the sponsor of the 7.3 forum ! I don't care who it is being hacked and bashed.. don't do it on this family forum ! Thats all my point was !

 

Epic ownage.

 

Now thats a new low even for you Joe, come on now.

 

This thread is priceless......
Many of you have commented about the DP tuner and the power it has, being better than any other.

This is like buying the biggest exhaust stacks then bitching that its louder than anyone elses truck.
If you expect your truck to pile on trouble free miles and last without replacing engine parts, then leave it the F&^% alone and dont run a F#$%ing chip in the 1st place.

Everyone was always saying how much power the 80 econo tune had, well thats seat of your pants proof you know the truck is working harder. What do you expect, a tune that adds 200 HP and makes the engine last 5x longer?

 

I have to apologize to the OP. You only wanted to sell your stuff. As a group our first course of action should have been to refer you to our classifieds section.

I am glad I was able to post. It's my job to explain my tuning whenever asked about it. I don't have the time, but I made time to help everyone understand what I am doing. I am always a phone call or eamil away if anyone has questions about their tuning.

I'll be doing Diane's job next week as well as mine, but if you need anything don't hesitate to ask. I'll try to frequent here as much as I can.

Jody

 

After reading this thread and then reading it again, which it two times more than I should have, I first want to offer my apologize for what happened to your thread. From your post I gather that you would have pulled and stopped using ANY chip or tuner you may have had in an effort to prolong you engine life and for that I applaud you. Not sure I could do that now.
Now, although a claim to no flaming intended has been made, Me being a "Typical DP fan" sees it somewhat differently. What i haven't seen and I will admit that I don't read all the post here and none on other forums, is how long have you ran you PHP tuner? One that that hasn't been pointed out is that one other thing in common with your engine problems is, well, YOU. I have no doubt that I could tear up any engine, with any tuner and any mod, if you want me to. I understand you anguish in you engine failures, but don't understand you need to search this forum, looking for a chance to voice your dislike for Jody and DP-Tuners.
One thing I don't think you will see from us "Typical DP fan" is a response to a posters question about custom tuners that is negative towards any of them. If some one ask about a PHP tuner, I simply don't respond, If they ask about an Edge or SuperChips, I will point them towards a custom tuner and encourage them to look hard at the DP.
Now you are correct in saying that I have not ran everyone else's tunes and therefore I can't speak for their products. However, I can speak for DP-Tuner and the care and service they give their customers.
I will never have the truck you have, I will never have the HP you have, but, I do have one that runs great and the word there is RUNS. If it blows tomorrow, it won't be Jody's fault anymore than it would be Rotella's fault, Exxon or BP's fault, or Pete's fault,(Pete's covers). It would be mine for pushing it harder than it should have been, or it could be that the engine was built by another human and I still haven't met one of them that was perfect.
So, until I see some data both collected, complied and interpreted by a third party with no interest in the outcome, then it's not useful to me. That data would also have to include engines that are running fine and have been, with various tuners.
Sorry for the long post, but you didn't have to read it...

 

Where was any claim made that DP was the best? Even I don't believe that. I've even said before if I lived near any of those other guys I would be using them, but I don't. I never saw once in here where it became this tuner is better than that one. Quote it, I don't think it happened. What did happen was wrong information was posted giving the information that there was a big problem with DP, and it appears that it just isn't so. The more that things were discussed, the easier it became to see that there was much more to the story.

It is unfortunate that the thread was hijacked, but it was only a matter of time before this was hashed out, because any thread about a tuner, engine problems, and sometimes unrelated things led to at least one person making these claims that they believed to be true, but now have been proven to be false. So that'll be the end of it for me, sorry if people got tired of me replying, but I found the information I have been searching a while for, about a couple of trucks that broke, and from Jody. Now I've drawn my conclusion....

I don't know who it is that made that comment toward me, but it matters not. When it gets to that level, it is a sign of pure desperation.

 

Good post Stewart, not the best post ever, but good post. I agree that things have been, for the most part, civil; and a lot of good info and discussion is being had.


I'm confused, you want him to post facts to back up his point; and he has posted graphs and tables from trucks running DP tunes showing what he has seen and is explaining, but yet you won't acknowledge them as factual and disregard them. What do you want him to post?



I haven't run DP tuners nor have I met or talked to Jody, so I can't say one way or the other if he's good or bad. I do find these threads interesting because a lot of good information is being shared. There are too many posts here that have no relevance to the discussion, just critizing someone for what they post, regardless if it's true or not. I'm not saying Joe is right or he is wrong, but like Stewart said, discussions like these can only make things better.
What if Joe is right and there was too much advanced timing? Are you going to go sit in the corner and cry because you have the same tunes?
What if Joe is wrong, and timing is correct? Will you gloat that you proved him wrong and continue to say DP is the best out there?

Jody is correct that there are many variables to take into account when tuning. Joe might have had a truck with a parameter that went too far and resulted in a blown engine. I would hope he'd work with Jody so that it can be resolved and made better for the next person to get Jody's tunes. And it sounds like this will be easier with his new software.

Just my observations from an "independent" viewer of this thread.