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). From what I understand (at least for my generation, 99-03), the steering gearbox is not the tightest precision component ever assembled 
. It can be adjusted at your own risk (which is why I haven't) and may help some of the problem.
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You might need a steering box adjustment.
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Just a bit of clairification, here...
There is virtually no play in my steering wheel whatsoever. It's not as if I have a "dead zone" where I can lightly turn the wheel with no effect.
It's just that this thing handles like a limp noodle compared to my '07.
Remember the F150 commercial with the stunt driver flying through tight S-curves with glass rods at the sides of the course? He then hit the brakes and slid a 180 degree turn and did it backwards again... Definitely NOT POSSIBLE with a super duty!
It just takes a split second for steering inputs to actually start turning the truck on the highway...nothing dangerous, and not even something that I would consider to be a problem. It's not even something that was unexpected! I knew that going to a heavier duty truck would have an adverse effect on my comfy ride and sharp handling.
It's just different, that's all!
There is virtually no play in my steering wheel whatsoever. It's not as if I have a "dead zone" where I can lightly turn the wheel with no effect.
It's just that this thing handles like a limp noodle compared to my '07.
Remember the F150 commercial with the stunt driver flying through tight S-curves with glass rods at the sides of the course? He then hit the brakes and slid a 180 degree turn and did it backwards again... Definitely NOT POSSIBLE with a super duty!
It just takes a split second for steering inputs to actually start turning the truck on the highway...nothing dangerous, and not even something that I would consider to be a problem. It's not even something that was unexpected! I knew that going to a heavier duty truck would have an adverse effect on my comfy ride and sharp handling.
It's just different, that's all!
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When I go to the quarry or landfill, there is alot of time spent with the motor idling, so the mileage I reported was true city driving with alot of idle time, not mixed.
He also made a comment that I'm light in weight. The Ford F-350 chassis cab is what it is. The Reading dump body I have weighs over 200 lbs more than comparable dump bodies by Rugby, Galion, ABC/Phenoix, Iroquois or Crysteel. My truck probably weighs more than 9,000 lbs. I don't have the slips from the landfill/quarry to check.
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How many miles can a v10 have on it before it has a huge loss in power? All are 7.3s at work have well over 200k, some are nearing 300k, and my bosses just hit 410k. When a v10 hits high milage, how does it perform, can it still keep up? When i started we still had a 91 w/ the old 7.3 N/A that had over 500k on original motor. Then there is old blue, been retired for a while, but it was an 80 somethin, the truck itself had over 1million on it and the original motor, 6.9, was around 700k when it finally took a dump and they swapped a 300k 6.9 in. They retired it because it finally got to dangerous to drive.lol These trucks arnt babied and in my opinion, arnt properly maintained. The truck with 410k still has the factory rear diff fluid in it.lol It amazeis me that some of these trucks are still runnin. The oldeset truck we have now is a 99. I dont think a v10 could hold up to that, but someone prove me wrong cuz im curious.lol
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I've had gassers hold up longer than the chassis. Usually just before 200K is when things start to go, interior stuff, suspension stuff. Not ending the life of the truck, just little things that cost money to replace.
I am a diesel convert. Ran gassers a lot and hard, now I enjoy the smooth power of the diesel. Never a Cummins, just the Duramax and my '08 is my first PowerStroke. I'm sure both the diesel and gasser will outlast the rest of the truck.
I just drove 530 miles with an approx. 15K fifth wheel trailer, GCWR is around 24K, maybe 23K? I did it with the Chevy 8.1 gasser, the Duramax, and now the 6.4 Ford. I just can't figure how a V10 would outpull my 6.4 based on my experiences over the last 5-7 years bill 11012. I'm not talking smack, it is tough to swallow your sig.
I am a diesel convert. Ran gassers a lot and hard, now I enjoy the smooth power of the diesel. Never a Cummins, just the Duramax and my '08 is my first PowerStroke. I'm sure both the diesel and gasser will outlast the rest of the truck.
I just drove 530 miles with an approx. 15K fifth wheel trailer, GCWR is around 24K, maybe 23K? I did it with the Chevy 8.1 gasser, the Duramax, and now the 6.4 Ford. I just can't figure how a V10 would outpull my 6.4 based on my experiences over the last 5-7 years bill 11012. I'm not talking smack, it is tough to swallow your sig.
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Me thinks you must be using the "new math". . Lets assume your diesel gets 12 MPG towing., and the V10 gets 9. Not unrealistic figures, depending on diesel motor and load.10,000 gallons of fuel would take the diesel 120,000 miles, and the V10 90,0000 miles , or the diesel would go 1.3 times further. So, the diesel took you $25K, and the V10 would take you $25K X 1.3 or $32.5K to go 120,000 miles, a difference of $7.5K. (does that number sound familiar?), and we haven't even discussed maintenance costs. So if you spent an additional $25Kon fuel for the V10, you must have done so over 400,000 miles. Not saying the V10 is better or worse than the diesel, just keeping the discussion level. 
Everyone usually likes to use their best mileage ever and say that is what they make. Just trying to use some realistic numbers for what I use my pickup for everyday. Might not be the same for the next guy. That is why the best motor is all in how you are using it. The job I am on right now I am sure a v10 would have a hard time making anything better than 10mpg, but my old 7.3 is in the making better than 16.
BTW Bucci, I didn't mean anything negative about saying your setup was light. I just figured looking at the pic it would be around 10k. With a dump box, lighter is a good thing.
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Nothing new in the math, I just used what I figured was real world numbers. My pickup can make much better than 16 empty (if I drive it a little more civilized) best I ever had was just over 21, and in order to get the towing mileage down to 12 I have to have my backhoe in tow which weighs nearly 18k plus the trailer. If I am trying to do 75mph with the backhoe it is closer to 10mpg, big difference from 65 to 75.
Everyone usually likes to use their best mileage ever and say that is what they make. Just trying to use some realistic numbers for what I use my pickup for everyday. Might not be the same for the next guy. That is why the best motor is all in how you are using it. The job I am on right now I am sure a v10 would have a hard time making anything better than 10mpg, but my old 7.3 is in the making better than 16.
BTW Bucci, I didn't mean anything negative about saying your setup was light. I just figured looking at the pic it would be around 10k. With a dump box, lighter is a good thing.
Everyone usually likes to use their best mileage ever and say that is what they make. Just trying to use some realistic numbers for what I use my pickup for everyday. Might not be the same for the next guy. That is why the best motor is all in how you are using it. The job I am on right now I am sure a v10 would have a hard time making anything better than 10mpg, but my old 7.3 is in the making better than 16.
BTW Bucci, I didn't mean anything negative about saying your setup was light. I just figured looking at the pic it would be around 10k. With a dump box, lighter is a good thing.
Well if you noticed I don't sugar coat anything. You asked and I told the truth about my fuel mileage, and how I use the truck. It is what it is.
I know you didn't mean anything negative about the weight. You are right that lighter is better because as curb weight goes up, GVW stays the same so legal payload goes down.
Well, let me say it this way, lighter is better to a point. You still need structural integrity and don't want to dent the box every time you load it.
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yes, he would with a 05- forward.
362 hp stock.
My 98 is close to 100 hp shy of that.
362 hp stock.
My 98 is close to 100 hp shy of that.
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wow, you are a sensitive one. you got me baby! (although the above does not hold any merit), keep on posting though, i'm sure you are bound to get something right! LOL
