Gas vs PSD
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I'll even park my diesel (with an oil pan under it to catch all the leaking oil) and ride in a gasser for that!
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But if I get down there with my pickup, I'll be sure to send you a PM!
Unless you're still interested....
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The same thing does NOT happen to gasoline engines. You have to be extremely careful with the fuel-air ratio and that limits the amount of fuel you can inject. I've owned supercharged cars in the past and currently have a supercharged big block Chevy. Running lean is the death of a supercharged engine.
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If he said that a 3V 5.4L will out tow a 2V V10 do you think everybody would hug and sing Kumbaya? LOL! There would be cannibalism among the gassy clans.
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You were wrong the first time and you're still wrong. Wanna go for a perfect three out of three? If you poor a bunch of fuel into a diesel then you get a bunch of power and a whole bunch of smoke. You can make things even better with a properly sized turbocharger, but it is not necessary.
The same thing does NOT happen to gasoline engines. You have to be extremely careful with the fuel-air ratio and that limits the amount of fuel you can inject. I've owned supercharged cars in the past and currently have a supercharged big block Chevy. Running lean is the death of a supercharged engine.
The same thing does NOT happen to gasoline engines. You have to be extremely careful with the fuel-air ratio and that limits the amount of fuel you can inject. I've owned supercharged cars in the past and currently have a supercharged big block Chevy. Running lean is the death of a supercharged engine.
There's a real reason that there are very few to no N/A diesels left out there in on-road vehicles-they're a pig.
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So go ahead and pull the turbo off and see what happens when you've got all that smoke pouring out of it. Your theory says it'll still make alot of power without a turbo to add airflow to the equation. Prove me wrong-I'm waiting.
There's a real reason that there are very few to no N/A diesels left out there in on-road vehicles-they're a pig.
JL
There's a real reason that there are very few to no N/A diesels left out there in on-road vehicles-they're a pig.
JL
hate to say it but this gasser is right^. without more air ur just killing the power. choking the motor. for fuel to combust right you need the fuel to air ratio to be perfect. when you get black smoke thats all unburn full going out the exhause cuz there wasnt enough air for it to combust. thats why a turbo is so great. its put all the air you need plus some in the motor.
fire 1o1. = air+fuel+heat = fire take away any one and no fire
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So go ahead and pull the turbo off and see what happens when you've got all that smoke pouring out of it. Your theory says it'll still make alot of power without a turbo to add airflow to the equation. Prove me wrong-I'm waiting.
There's a real reason that there are very few to no N/A diesels left out there in on-road vehicles-they're a pig.
JL
There's a real reason that there are very few to no N/A diesels left out there in on-road vehicles-they're a pig.
JL
Your thought process darts around all over the place! I don't know what conversation you're having now, but it's not the one we left behind a few posts up.
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You were wrong the first time and you're still wrong. Wanna go for a perfect three out of three? If you poor a bunch of fuel into a diesel then you get a bunch of power and a whole bunch of smoke. You can make things even better with a properly sized turbocharger, but it is not necessary.
The same thing does NOT happen to gasoline engines. You have to be extremely careful with the fuel-air ratio and that limits the amount of fuel you can inject. I've owned supercharged cars in the past and currently have a supercharged big block Chevy. Running lean is the death of a supercharged engine.
The same thing does NOT happen to gasoline engines. You have to be extremely careful with the fuel-air ratio and that limits the amount of fuel you can inject. I've owned supercharged cars in the past and currently have a supercharged big block Chevy. Running lean is the death of a supercharged engine.
supercharger is way diffrent that a turbo boss. and the problem with gassers and superchargers is the rpms. diesel are low rpms and can take that kinda compression in the cylinders. the supercharger runs off a cam or crank. if the pistons are turning at 6000 rpms then the crank is turn way faster boss. think of it as if you were turning the motor over by hand off the hermonic balancer. a quarter turn on the balance is a full rev of the piston.