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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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I don't know how it happened or even why. 1 thing I'm pretty sure of though its not like sand man wants us to believe. When a spark plug is spit it don't just "fall out". I imagine there's pressure there. If it blew on the ignition I'm real sure that plug was moving. It would be easy to find out how much pressure it could have.
There will obviously be force pushing against the plug on the upstroke. I'd bet money the plug gave signs prior to being blown. Blowby sound, tick and probably detontation. (possibly excessive) Detonation can be a very harmful and can really shock the internals, obviously.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
Here is an old article from 2007. It will give you PSDs more reason to keep the DSLs. When reading further down in the article not one plug was thrown through the the hood and hey it was only one truck that burnt up. Now that would fall into the stimulus package.

Spit Spark Plug Ignites Ford Truck
That would cost a lot more than anything on the PSD, fer-sure...Well, it would be an insurance write-off, so I guess not. At least I don't have to worry about being burned alive by my 6.4.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by exiled
Why am I going to go out my way to prove it to you. I don't what you believe. Its not my point. My point is some of you are to lazy to do some research or don't know how. And sit around and run there their mouth. My point was the v10 has had problems. Proof that wrong. Where's your proof? BTW I could proof it though. I can post his work order. No I'm not cause like I said I don't care what you think. Now if you had acted like you has some sense and was wanting to learn something I would have gone out my way to get the info to board. Attacking me doesn't get the results you want.
Proof for your story is like the Roswell UFO crash evidence of 1947, lots of people claim it exists, some have said they've even seen it. But until someone gets it out of the vault, it is what it is, another urban legend. BTW, as for my proof, it's sitting in my driveway and has all 10 plugs in it and has had since day one. And your semantics and spelling still blow...
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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From the linked article showing burned down Ford as a result of spit plug.
Instead of putting consumer safety first, NHTSA is backing Ford. It's refusing to consider spit spark plugs beyond stating that its analysis of 474 complaints describing the incidents "found only a very few alleged any safety-related consequences. None of these showed any evidence of a serious safety consequence."
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This is the same NHTSA that in the last year has recalled 45,000 Honda Civic hybrids because the engine could stall; 1.2 million Honda and Acura vehicles because their owners manual had incorrect information about NHTSA's "safety hotline;" a few hundred thousands Nissan Altimas and Sentras because the engine could stop running at slow speeds; 45,000 Chrysler vehicles because leaking brake fluid could start an engine fire.

The agency made Audi stage a second recall of some A6 sedans, claiming a previous recall had not fixed a headlight switch that could short out and start a fire.
This is just another proof (besides promoting gas guzzlers) how far can "corporate dollars" make into the politics in this country.
What makes me wonder is howcome V10 owners instead of demanding safety for themself, their families and coworkers - keep downplaying the problem?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
BTW, as for my proof, it's sitting in my driveway and has all 10 plugs in it and has had since day one. And your semantics and spelling still blow...
I guess that explains everything.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
This is just another proof (besides promoting gas guzzlers) how far can "corporate dollars" make into the politics in this country.
I keep wondering how you can keep violating FTE guidelines bringing politics BS into this thread time after time and not get an infraction.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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For the sheets and giggles I went to goggle and typed the same phrase... Ford ____ problems changing the blank to V10, 7.3, 6.0, 6.4 and in that order this is the amount of results are as follows. Keeping in mind it searched for that phrase. So it could be any problem with in that search. All things being equal only the engine changed in the search.

V10 -- 240,000

7.3 -- 994,000

6.0 -- 1,810,000

6.4 -- 993,000

 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
For the sheets and giggles I went to goggle and typed the same phrase... Ford ____ problems changing the blank to V10, 7.3, 6.0, 6.4 and in that order this is the amount of results are as follows. Keeping in mind it searched for that phrase. So it could be any problem with in that search. All things being equal only the engine changed in the search.

V10 -- 240,000

7.3 -- 994,000

6.0 -- 1,810,000

6.4 -- 993,000

Strange...Mine shows the following...

V10 240,000
6.4 985,000
6.0 1,760,000
7.3 990,000

Seems like you added a few thousand to the diesels, but you got the V10 right. However, if I google "ford v10 blown spark plug fires" there are 216,000 results there also...

Now, I'm not trying to stir the pot here, but Google results mean absolutely nothing. All it is is a ranking. If you went to the last page on ANY of the listed subjects, you'd probably find a crayon picture with a 4yr old writing I wish I had a *insert engine size here*... Even if the numbers were relatively close, they sell 6-7 PSD's for every V10, so that would mean the V10 has more issues than the 6.4 using your Google rankings...
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dkf
I keep wondering how you can keep violating FTE guidelines bringing politics BS into this thread time after time and not get an infraction.
FYI I was warned to keep some comment only in this topic
Than I guess only some can't see that we have well over 8000 replies in this topic, that violate FTE guidlines.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
Now, I'm not trying to stir the pot here, but Google results mean absolutely nothing. All it is is a ranking. If you went to the last page on ANY of the listed subjects, you'd probably find a crayon picture with a 4yr old writing I wish I had a *insert engine size here*... Even if the numbers were relatively close, they sell 6-7 PSD's for every V10, so that would mean the V10 has more issues than the 6.4 using your Google rankings...
You google "kajtek1" and you get 42,000 hits.
Bad news >>> most of them are mine
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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I mean c'mon...Google? Just for sheets and giggles I typed "ford moon bat problems" and got 354,000 threads...Anybody driven a Ford Moon Bat lately?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1

What makes me wonder is howcome V10 owners instead of demanding safety for themself, their families and coworkers - keep downplaying the problem?
Its perfectly safe, there is no problem!
I am not downplaying anything. Put them in right and it will NEVER be a problem.

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Than I guess only some can't see that we have well over 8000 replies in this topic, that violate FTE guidlines.
Why is that?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
Its perfectly safe, there is no problem!
I am not downplaying anything. Put them in right and it will NEVER be a problem.
Here we go again. Would you like to tell that to those who lost their trucks thanks to shooting plug?
I was close to loosing my Ford due the windshield wiper circuit shortening on parked truck. Others lost not only the trucks, but also their homes due to shortening CC circuit. Do I say the Ford is perfectly safe truck?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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The CC switch was a real problem.
The plugs just need the proper torque.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
The CC switch was a real problem.
The plugs just need the proper torque.
And that is what cost $800 at dealer exchange, or $1200 at a repair?
I never had CC switch problem.
 
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