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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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You're insinuating that I tow at 55-60 mph.
Last time I checked-you were not in my truck when I was on vacation.
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LOL, not insinuating anything, though you sound bitter... you can argue things about the 6.0, but you are not going to say the v10 comes close to the 6.0 in mileage.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
LOL, not insinuating anything, though you sound bitter... you can argue things about the 6.0, but you are not going to say the v10 comes close to the 6.0 in mileage.
Did I ever say that?
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
LOL, not insinuating anything, though you sound bitter... you can argue things about the 6.0, but you are not going to say the v10 comes close to the 6.0 in mileage.
Wouldn't you be bitter too if you made a mistake and bought a v-10? And he will come up with any excuse or so call fact saying his v-10 is better then your 6.0 in every way.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
I "borrowed" my truck for 2 days before I bought it and if it was getting 12 driving down the road, I would have avoided it. Of course, most of my driving is longer distance, on fairly flat ground as the mountains are on my left heading North. BTW, my 6.4 gets the same mileage sitting at a traffic light as the newest Toyota Prius model.

I finally drove a 7.3 yesterday to pick up lunch as I had a 16' trailer behind mine with a broken landing leg. Sorry to all the 7.3 owners, but if yours is stock, don't try and come after a 6.4. You'll get embarrassed. To those who have never driven a 6.4 and think it's like a 7.3, or has the same power or less, you really need to drive one...Then this thread would die, or get renamed the 7.3PSD vs V10 thread.
I know that a 6.4 is nothing like the 7.3 that I have driven.
I also know that the 3V V10 is nothing like my 2V.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
I know that a 6.4 is nothing like the 7.3 that I have driven.
I also know that the 3V V10 is nothing like my 2V.
lol...I went from a 2V 5.4 to a 3V 5.4 in F150's and there's not a whole lot of difference...Hell, none that you could feel...

However, the standard board logic dictates that a 7.3 and a 6.4 are both diesel, therefore, they must be the same...(but they're not even close)
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
lol...I went from a 2V 5.4 to a 3V 5.4 in F150's and there's not a whole lot of difference...Hell, none that you could feel...

However, the standard board logic dictates that a 7.3 and a 6.4 are both diesel, therefore, they must be the same...(but they're not even close)
Below 4k rpm there isn't any difference between the 2v and 3v(the 2v actually makes more low end power). Above 4k rpm and they aren't even close. It's just hard to convince a diesel guy that holding one at 4-5k rpm up an 8-10 mile climb is not going to blow anything up and that turning 4k rpm doesn't mean an engine is weak.

I don't think anyone on here has argued that a 7.3 is even in the same ballpark as a 6.4 when it comes to power.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
I "borrowed" my truck for 2 days before I bought it and if it was getting 12 driving down the road, I would have avoided it. Of course, most of my driving is longer distance, on fairly flat ground as the mountains are on my left heading North. BTW, my 6.4 gets the same mileage sitting at a traffic light as the newest Toyota Prius model.
Uhmmm... that's great... but you'll use more fuel when the light runs green. And as you average 10-15 mph down the road, you'll use quite a bit of fuel.

As for a truck getting 12 mpg, it doesn't bother me. We've already mentioned, I drive 4.5 miles one way, 9 miles round trip per day. It makes that 9 mpg that get really easy to figure out how much gas I use But really, the difference between 10-12 mpg and 15-17 isn't that big of a deal to me Let not forget we are driving trucks that are close to 4 tons, it's not like I was expecting to get 40 mpg and got 5.

Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
I finally drove a 7.3 yesterday to pick up lunch as I had a 16' trailer behind mine with a broken landing leg. Sorry to all the 7.3 owners, but if yours is stock, don't try and come after a 6.4. You'll get embarrassed. To those who have never driven a 6.4 and think it's like a 7.3, or has the same power or less, you really need to drive one...Then this thread would die, or get renamed the 7.3PSD vs V10 thread.
I had a 7.3, and yeah comparing power the 6.0 and 6.4 blow it away in stock form. The major advantage was reliability and tunablity. You could tune the 7.3 to preform very well with very little effort and still have a reliable truck. The 6.0 and 6.4 could be tuned, but at the cost of reliability. (and now I'll here about the single guy who ran 5Billion hp for 2 million miles without a problem, but in general the 6.0 and 6.4 lost what reliability they had when tuned). From what I gather, a modestly tuned 7.3 would keep up with a stock 6.0 or 6.4 and be pretty reliable.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Actually from what I've seen, 6.4 reliability goes up with tuning, as you delete troublesome emissions components.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
lol...I went from a 2V 5.4 to a 3V 5.4 in F150's and there's not a whole lot of difference...Hell, none that you could feel...

However, the standard board logic dictates that a 7.3 and a 6.4 are both diesel, therefore, they must be the same...(but they're not even close)
It's hard to say what the difference was since the 3V V10 was also coupled with an additional gear in the tranny.

I had many 3V 5.4's in F150's with the 4 speed tranny, and my buddy's 3V 4.6 with a 6 speed would blow them away. I had 4.10 and he has 3.55 too.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
Actually from what I've seen, 6.4 reliability goes up with tuning, as you delete troublesome emissions components.
true, I was referring to engine tuning though (electronic plug in tuners). But your point is very true.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
Below 4k rpm there isn't any difference between the 2v and 3v(the 2v actually makes more low end power). Above 4k rpm and they aren't even close. It's just hard to convince a diesel guy that holding one at 4-5k rpm up an 8-10 mile climb is not going to blow anything up and that turning 4k rpm doesn't mean an engine is weak.

I don't think anyone on here has argued that a 7.3 is even in the same ballpark as a 6.4 when it comes to power.
If it's going to blow my engine up, theirs will blow up from holding full boost up that same mountain.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Uhmmm... that's great... but you'll use more fuel when the light runs green. And as you average 10-15 mph down the road, you'll use quite a bit of fuel.
But I'm getting 18mpg, so that's a lot better than 10-15...There's another thread that covers the 6.4 now, and there are several of us in the 16-18mpg range, so it's not a fluke...Air the tires up to 70 (max is 80) and keep up with traffic...
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
If it's going to blow my engine up, theirs will blow up from holding full boost up that same mountain.
I go up a big-*** mountain all the time, and the V10's are in the truck lane half the time just because they don't want to use 1/2 a tank of gas getting to the top at redline.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
But I'm getting 18mpg, so that's a lot better than 10-15...There's another thread that covers the 6.4 now, and there are several of us in the 16-18mpg range, so it's not a fluke...Air the tires up to 70 (max is 80) and keep up with traffic...
Re read what you just quote, it wasn't 10-15 mpg, that was 10-15 mph. I doubt you will get 18 mpg averaging that speed in stop in go traffic that I drive in.

My buddy get 12 mpg. And the guys that live in my apartment complex get about the same with their 6.4's, so it's no fluke either. I have no doubt that under different conditions they could get 16-18 mpg, just not here with these roads, in this traffic.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
I go up a big-*** mountain all the time, and the V10's are in the truck lane half the time just because they don't want to use 1/2 a tank of gas getting to the top at redline.
well yes, the V10 does use some gas when towing, I get about 8 mpg. Again, I don't tow enough for it to bother me though.

You don't think you're using more fuel going up the mountain? The more boost you use, the more fuel you use too.
 
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