Gas vs PSD
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We can discuss this til we are blue in the face, but it will not change the fact that a 2000 5.4 4.10 with manual will touch a 6.2 with 4.30 auto or 6.0 with 3.73 auto.
The 5.4 is a dog in a super duty regardless of transmission, or gears or whatever math you want to put to it.
The 5.4 is a dog in a super duty regardless of transmission, or gears or whatever math you want to put to it.
The manual tranny will only help in its low gear (or 1st, whatever they call it), once the 5.4 is shifted out of that gear, it's all over for it. But it can have it's 5 seconds of glory before being sent to the slaughter house.
I also would not be very pleased with a 5.4, but for some it suites their needs, so be it. Good for them.
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I totally agree. But when someone throws out the 5.4 will pull harder or will get off the line quicker than the 6.0 or new 6.2, it needs to be defended. It just ain't true.
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That's why you get the 6.4 with a manual tranny and beat up on all of them
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not to mention there isn't a person on the planet that can shift faster than the newer automatics. No, I'm not talking about a NHRA top fueler setup, but a regular transmission like in your truck.
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It's not that bad. I drove a tractor once that had 32 gears and had a top speed of 28 mph. You couldn't even make 1 mph per a gear.
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Biggest difference i can see in shifting is that my left foot and right arm control shifts with a manual, a computer and my right foot control them in an auto. i can shift sooner than an automatic would at WOT. An automatic will hold gears longer at WOT, I can shift sooner and get back into the powerband faster with a manual.
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Not that I would want a manual for speed shifting, but I don't think regular automatics are all that fast. The fast autos are the ones that are more or less manuals with automatic shifting like in Ferrari's and other high end sports cars, although dual clutch tranny's found in some VW's can shift stupid fast to; but none of that tech is in the super duty.
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From: WV
Yup, empty you just don't use that gear. I have a year or two though till I get another truck, so plenty of time to plot out what I get.
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Biggest difference i can see in shifting is that my left foot and right arm control shifts with a manual, a computer and my right foot control them in an auto. i can shift sooner than an automatic would at WOT. An automatic will hold gears longer at WOT, I can shift sooner and get back into the powerband faster with a manual.
Now my buddy with the 1995 manual psd is close off the line to me but loses a truck length or two each shift and can't make it up. No diesel manual will run with a new auto past first gear.
We are talking about pulling and I can agree there are advantages to a manual.
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Love the new truck, but haven't gotten the chance to drive it in the last two weeks. Have been at a military school which goes for about 14 hours a day, 7 days a week. I'm done tomorrow and really looking forward to the long drive home!
