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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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You have to remember - he is only 16 or 17 years old.
Normally I'd say something like "Your wife doesn't mind", but I'll be the mature one.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
You just showed how narrow or retarded your thought process is. did I say I ****ed my truck, or that it helped me get more tail in any way? No. I said PSD OWNERS get more tail. If you don't, well, it sucks to be you.

Is that because of how loudly you have to talk when the engine is idling or because of the odor?

Now if you said getting tail in the truck I could understand. The V10 idles way to smooth whereas the PSD is like a vibrating bed.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Is that because of how loudly you have to talk when the engine is idling or because of the odor?

Now if you said getting tail in the truck I could understand. The V10 idles way to smooth whereas the PSD is like a vibrating bed.
Don't dog on the vibrating bed, especially in hotels with the red light above the door....

Where abouts you live?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Is that because of how loudly you have to talk when the engine is idling or because of the odor?

Now if you said getting tail in the truck I could understand. The V10 idles way to smooth whereas the PSD is like a vibrating bed.
Have you sat in the cab of a 6.4? My truck doesn't vibrate. Not like a 7.3.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
I'm just saying that mag article is full of BS. They clearly made false assumptions on things as basic as the price. Instead of clicking on Ford's webpage to find out exactly how much a PSD costs, they used this "similarly equipped, though not identical" pricing scheme to diminish the true cost savings of the V10.
I never looked at, or thought about buying, a 6.4 so I have no idea how accurate their price numbers are. If I were to go to the Ford website and see how much a psd would cost, it would be a different, more expensive psd. Your argument is like me saying, "I can't believe that someone actually claimed that a 1999 F-250 psd was only $4,500 more than a 1999 F-250 V10 when you can clearly see that a 2011 F-250 psd is over $9,000 more than a 2011 F-250 6.2."

I don't know, or care, how accurate their numbers are. I do find it interesting that the pickuptrucks.com article (or wherever it came from) is the bible on how these trucks pull, but anything else is garbage. I've read numerous threads here over the last several years where dudes complain about automotive journalists and how ignorant they are in their tests. Then the pickuptrucks.com article comes out and some of the same people who were complaining are singing the praises of the rocket surgeons who organized, performed and then wrote about this test...despite the fact that one was a Dually and the other was a F-250...but who needs to be bothered with the pesky details?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush117
I never looked at, or thought about buying, a 6.4 so I have no idea how accurate their price numbers are. If I were to go to the Ford website and see how much a psd would cost, it would be a different, more expensive psd. I can't believe that someone actually claimed that a 1999 F-250 psd was only $4,500 more than a 1999 F-250 V10 when you can clearly see that a 2011 F-250 psd is over $9,000 more than a 2011 F-250 6.2.

I don't know, or care, how accurate their numbers are. I do find it interesting that the pickuptrucks.com article (or wherever it came from) is the bible on how these trucks pull, but anything else is garbage. I've read numerous threads here over the last several years where dudes complain about automotive journalists and how ignorant they are in their tests. Then the pickuptrucks.com article comes out and some of the same people who were complaining are singing the praises of the rocket surgeons who organized and performed and then wrote about this test...despite the fact that one was a Dually and the other was a F-250...but who needs to be bothered with the pesky details?
Ford must think that 6.7 is made out of Gold. After looking at several of the 11's at the dealerships, I might buy one...in 2015. I would NEVER pay their MSRP for a truck.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush117
I never looked at, or thought about buying, a 6.4 so I have no idea how accurate their price numbers are. If I were to go to the Ford website and see how much a psd would cost, it would be a different, more expensive psd. Your argument is like me saying, "I can't believe that someone actually claimed that a 1999 F-250 psd was only $4,500 more than a 1999 F-250 V10 when you can clearly see that a 2011 F-250 psd is over $9,000 more than a 2011 F-250 6.2."

I don't know, or care, how accurate their numbers are. I do find it interesting that the pickuptrucks.com article (or wherever it came from) is the bible on how these trucks pull, but anything else is garbage. I've read numerous threads here over the last several years where dudes complain about automotive journalists and how ignorant they are in their tests. Then the pickuptrucks.com article comes out and some of the same people who were complaining are singing the praises of the rocket surgeons who organized, performed and then wrote about this test...despite the fact that one was a Dually and the other was a F-250...but who needs to be bothered with the pesky details?
The article was from Diesel Power Magazine, not PickupTrucks.com
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
I'm pretty sure it was determined they used an early 2V V10 for that comparison. And it probably did not have a 4.30 rear end, they probably just assumed it did even though that engine came with a 3.73 or 4.10.
Yea, there numbers are way off for a 3V with a TS and 4.30s. They say that at under 16,000 GCW the V10 took 29 seconds to go from 15-65. My NPI 2V with 3.73s and 4r100 ( the slowest, least power to the ground V10 ever made) does that with 18,000 in 35 secconds.

I have the vid to prove it too.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
The article was from Diesel Power Magazine, not PickupTrucks.com
There was another one from pickuptrucks.com that many in this thread will argue is the end of the argument.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
Man, a bunch of haters. LOL well we will only know with another pull off.
Johnny and Tom have already filmed their trucks doing the 0-60 mph part. Johnny had 2k lbs more than Tom and only had a 4.10 gear and he wasn't as far behind Tom as the v10 in the diesel power test when both had the same weight and the v10 had a 4.30. Not hating, just saying the real world test some of our own members did was not even close to matching what a DIESEL magazine did.

They also got less mpg's out of the v10 unloaded driving around town than Bill gets out of his towing 10k lbs at 80 mph. The numbers just are not even remotely close to what members here get in their real world driving.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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If any of you guys want to put a Cummins an an 08 F450 crew cab, There's one on Ebay with a bad 6.4. Cracked piston or something like that. Don't know the mileage, see it here: Ford : F-450: eBay Motors (item 180528462760 end time Jul-23-10 20:14:41 PDT)
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
I said PSD OWNERS get more tail.
Dude, you are SERIOUSLY reaching for something to justify your purchase if you're going to bring out the "get more tail" excuse.

But hey, if you bought a PSD to get more tail, more power to you. Funny how most gals can't stand the smell of diesel.

You really have to be careful of "tail" that doesn't have a sense of smell
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rush117
I never looked at, or thought about buying, a 6.4 so I have no idea how accurate their price numbers are. If I were to go to the Ford website and see how much a psd would cost, it would be a different, more expensive psd. Your argument is like me saying, "I can't believe that someone actually claimed that a 1999 F-250 psd was only $4,500 more than a 1999 F-250 V10 when you can clearly see that a 2011 F-250 psd is over $9,000 more than a 2011 F-250 6.2."

I don't know, or care, how accurate their numbers are. I do find it interesting that the pickuptrucks.com article (or wherever it came from) is the bible on how these trucks pull, but anything else is garbage. I've read numerous threads here over the last several years where dudes complain about automotive journalists and how ignorant they are in their tests. Then the pickuptrucks.com article comes out and some of the same people who were complaining are singing the praises of the rocket surgeons who organized, performed and then wrote about this test...despite the fact that one was a Dually and the other was a F-250...but who needs to be bothered with the pesky details?
Why is it so different? Ford still allows you to spec out a 2010 SD, and those are the numbers I used. The prices I quoted above were for a 2010 6.4L PSD and a 2010 3V 6.8L V10, the same engines that they used in the 2008 truck in the article. The only difference was that their engine came from 2008 and mine came from 2010, so there was maybe a $500 difference, probably not the $2600 difference between what I saw and what they quoted for the same engines.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Dude, you are SERIOUSLY reaching for something to justify your purchase if you're going to bring out the "get more tail" excuse.

But hey, if you bought a PSD to get more tail, more power to you. Funny how most gals can't stand the smell of diesel.

You really have to be careful of "tail" that doesn't have a sense of smell
Maybe he means the tail of deer?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
Don't dog on the vibrating bed, especially in hotels with the red light above the door....

Where abouts you live?
Morgantown WV...
 
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