You'd be surprised just how much a turbine engine will burn. Chrysler's experimental turbine car from the 60s was designed to burn Gasoline, Diesel and just about anything in between.

Something people might find interesting: the M1A1 was designed by a venture between Chrysler Defense, and GM Defense.

 

Without any bias whatsoever, you have to stop using language like this.

 

p'shaw...Put the compressor back there in your bedroom and I'll bet the neighbors wouldn't even know it was there...(kidding)

 

The V10 has more horsepower than the Cummins and a 6 speed auto. Ain't gonna be "slow" by any stretch of the definition of "slow"

 

I haven't really seen a big comparisons to the 6.0/6.4 either. It's mainly the 7.3. And I could careless if the v-10 makes 12 more hp, which all I had to do is buy a 49 dollar drop in K&N filter and there it makes more power then the v-10. All I spent on my truck was 1900 dollars for the mods and I make twice as much power and probably 3 times as much tq as a v-10 know. Oh and I'm getting 20 plus mpg on the hwy and 19-20 mpg per fill up. Love to see a v-10 do that even if you want to spend the price of the cost of the diesel engine. And by removing the emission stuff my truck is more realible then stock. There is a reason why ford quit putting the v-10 in the 250-450. Cause the psd is always a better option and apparently from what I have heard at cafe's and on the internet the 6.7 is a great motor. I mean you have the new v-8 that makes more power and tow just as much as a v-10 and then you have the new psd that supposely is going to be the best diesel engine ever made. So why have a gas guzzler v-10 that no one will buy?

 

What ********? I see other people on here cussing don't see you quoting them. You know we are all adults here and this thread is like having a conversation at a local bar and there will be cuss words that will pop up. So stop making a big deal with the cussing and these little name calling. It's not like I called in a motherfer or anything of that nature. You guys need to grow some *****.

 

Actually, those don't surprise me at all. I remember during OIF-I on the way into Iraq our supply lines were stretched and we were tasked with a recon by fire on a small area. The tank slice supporting us was sitting with 1/4 of their max. They appropriated an old Iraqi fueler that had a rather vile looking mix of stuff in it so they called their MST team chief up to look at it. He sniffed around for a minute, determined it would burn and said it would be fine.

FYI, the M1 was bid by both Chrysler and GM. The GM design used a traditional (think M60 and M88 recovery vehicle) V12 engine and the Chrysler went with the Turbine. Chrysler won the competition hands down and was awarded the contract. I firmly believe that's the only reason we bailed them out back in the 80's. They have pictures of the prototypes and designs put forth by both of them at the Armor School at Fort Knox, which is in the process of moving to Fort Benning, GA. Fort Knox is losing the Armor School....Sad. It's going to be the Maneuver Center of Excellence now.

 

LMAO, I'm about as far from a bible thumper as you can get, but I won't diverge into that because it's off topic and I'll **** off enough people to get banned. I just don't see a reason to call people names, it won't do anything but get tempers flared up and get this thread locked. We can actually communicate without personal insults and maintain some personal integrity.

So...
1. Comparing a V10 to a PSD does not mean we think it is better. Most of V10 owners will say the 6.0 and 6.4 is the better engine, it just wasn't needed for our needs. Again, comparing my 100m time to Usain Bolt's does not mean I think I am a "badass" It's simply a comparison.

2. In my position, I think the V10 was the cheaper choice. Here are the reasons:

My friend's 6.4 is not any easier on his wallet when it comes to fuel where we drive, so don't start the mpg thing. However, he tows far more than I, so the 6.4 was probably a good choice for him.

I originally slotted $600 a month for payments for my truck when I was shopping for one, I only pay $475, $125 less than I thought, strictly because I did not buy the 6.4. I used that money and increased my contributions to my 401k by $125 a month. when I turn 65, I'll be even happier I didn't get a 6.4 lol If you think saving money for retirement is stupid, that's your opinion and your welcome to it. I for one won't trust Social Security, so I'm making sure I can save whatever I can.

I don't drive many miles (7-8,000 per year), and barely tow. The only reason I have a Super Duty is to tow, I tow about 1,000 miles a year. Yes the PSD would be the better option during those 1,000 miles, but the V10 can get the job done. It has been for the last year and probably will for many more years. When I compared the money I would save on the initial investment, I though I would rather put that money in my 401k then have an easier time towing those 1,000 miles a year. My personal decision... If I was a billionaire and didn't care about $7k, yeah I would have gone for it.

In all, the any of the PSD's compared to their similar year big gas engine is probably a better all around work engine. However, that doesn't mean it meets everyone's needs or fits every application. Some people like me just don't need a PSD because we don't tow all the time and drive very few miles.

 

That's debatable

 

I don't doubt you make lots of torque, but saying you're making over 700 hp and 1300 lb-ft of torque with $1900 is a bit of a stretch.

20 mpg I can easily believe, that is above average, but still very doable. I've also heard others that get close to 20, but haven't seen anyone get 23 mpg on a regular basis yet.

The 6.7 is also a great motor so far, but only time will tell if it will be reliable. I certainly hope it will be.

Ford still puts the V10 in the F350/450 chassis-cab, although admittedly I would just get the 6.2 with a bed. It has far more potential the the 5.4 IMO. It also has more hp than the V10, although less torque and develops all of this at higher RPM's than the V10, but again people who tow consistently should probably look at the 6.7 IMO. And yes it can tow just as much as the V10, I wouldn't have a problem getting the 6.2 to do what I'm doing right now with my V10. With the improved V8 gasser, the dated V10 really has no place IMO.

I think I see the problem here. Your thinking I choose the V10 because I didn't think the PSD was up to the task. The opposite is the truth though, it's only the price that stopped me from getting the PSD. I got the V10 because I thought the 5.4 wouldn't do what I needed it to, and for $700 it was a good upgrade from the 5.4.

 

There are times I would like to...

 

See what I mean? Every time things calm down, along comes another, out of the blue, trying to stir the pot.

Then, if a PSD owner gives it back, along comes a mod telling us to quit, so I can empathize with Jac08's frustration. I realize it could be worse and Krewat could just flip the cover on his "ban button" and press it at will, which he hasn't done. Because he hasn't, he's earned himself a few grains of respect...(kidding about grains there, Mr. Krewat)

My point is I have NEVER started with the name calling; I just give it back. Last night 2 different people with absolutely NOTHING to contribute, and who weren't involved in the conversation I was having with another member both flew in here squawking away, and **** all over everything like a couple of seagulls before flying off. Both of them own V10's...

So, do V10 owners have some mental defect that makes them angry when they see, hear, smell, or get their butts kicked by a PSD? Just curious...hehehe

 

P.S. The end of my last post would make a normal, sane person chuckle...

 

Oh yippee...I get to go work on an 800-ton chiller that's been broken pretty much since the day it was installed 10yrs ago.

PSD, FTW!!

 

The CC 6.7 is de-tuned and has less power than the CC V10. They do not make V10 pick ups after 2010.

Not just SRW! They both have the same limit, 33,000 lbs, in the F550. The PSD can not tow more in any form.


Why would it be slow? Its the most powerfull engine you can get in the F650/F750.

In the pickups it has the same weight rating. I think its lower in the bigger trucks. The V10 no longer has a place in light trucks, but theres not a better gas motor out there to put in an F550-750.