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That's how they are around here too and that's how we used to be at our shop. I just had to replace the e4od in mine about a year ago and I had a shop here do it for me because my garage was full and they only charged $150 to remove the old one and install the new one. When we owned our shop, I think the hourly rate to remove/install a tranny was around 3 hours even though we did it a lot faster.
Read your last sentence though. "Best build in the country." That is always going to cost more than a stock replacement. I can get tremec tko 600 for my mustang for $1,800 or I could have my stock t5 rebuilt for $250, which I did not too long ago. That was with me taking it out and putting it back in, but a full rebuild done by the shop. I'm not saying there aren't $5k e4od/4r100's out there, but they sure as heck aren't stock replacements.
thats kinda the point i was making josh. My tranny is still holding up fine, but im saving up for a bts right now.
Labor to remove and install a tranny shouldn't be more than $150-200(at least that is what shops around here charge). If you can buy one online for $1,500 you should be able to have it installed and ready to go for a total of $1,700. I just replaced an e4od less than a year ago, including removal and installation, for $1,500. That was with a 3 year 100k mile warranty too. Did that guy have his replaced at a dealer or have some sort of perfomance rebuild done on it? I know several guys that have paid over $5,000 to rebuild an e4od, but they were nowhere near stock and every last part in them was high dollar.
After my last post(at 1pm) I went and ate lunch and then cleaned my dog lot out. I started working on my cars at 3 pm. It is now 6:30 and I just installed an 8.8" rear end and brake lines in one mustang and put an engine and tranny in my other. That is 3 hours. At $60 an hour that is $180 for everything I just did. If someone charges you more than that to install a tranny, you are getting ripped off.
There isn't a shop in this end of the state that only charges $60/hr. Most are over $100 per. Again, totally insane, but it is what it is. About 5 years back we hade the 4L60E rebuilt in our Suburban and it was nearly $2000 for a complete rebuild. By complete I mean a complete TransGo kit, including sleeving the valve body and a converter. That tranny replaced a stock rebuild that was done the year before and cost $1700, so prices aren't all that different between stock and aftermarket, at least for GM trash. The trans in my Dad's '01 Dodge Ram went for about $3000, including a converter, so $3000-$4000 isn't totally out of the realm for a shop, at least in this area. BTW, Josh, I'm on the lookout for a late-'80's T5 but don't know what to expect to pay, any idea?
There isn't a shop in this end of the state that only charges $60/hr. Most are over $100 per.
That tranny replaced a stock rebuild that was done the year before and cost $1700, so prices aren't all that different between stock and aftermarket, at least for GM trash.
BTW, Josh, I'm on the lookout for a late-'80's T5 but don't know what to expect to pay, any idea?
Wow. That is crazy. I was quoting $60 because I wanted to give the upper end of the price range. Most local shops around here charge $45 per hour and the dealers charge $60.
There are aftermarket trannys that are close to what stock ones are, but there are also ones that are about 3 times as expensive. I haven't looked at anything newer than an e4od for prices, but I have seen them anywhere from $1300 for a stock rebuild to over $5000 for a high performance rebuild. It all depends on what kind you go with.
The only t5's I have bought have been from around where I live, so prices may be different where you are. If it is in good working condition and low mileage, I would expect to pay about $250 for it. If it needs a rebuild, about $50-75. I bought two of them about a year ago for $75 total.
I had the E4OD rebuilt in my 97 by a local shop for $3000.00. That included an aftermarket torque converter and a transgo tugger kit. They had to replace a few gears in it too that normally wouldn't have had to be replaced because they had turned blue/black from heat! In a truck that has 4:56 gears, and weighs 13,000lbs, I have put over 160,000 miles on it. The engine has all the standard mods, and some mild tuning as well.
I seen an estimate from a Chrysler dealer back around 2005 that was $149.95 an hour, for a POS 95 Avenger that needed brakes and a water pump. I towed the car 40 miles to another shop and he still saved $1700 over the dealer!
I believe we are up into the over $75/hour range around here, but I haven't visited a shop in the last 10 years
Just knowing shop prices doesn't mean you spend a lot of time there having work done. Three of my friends own local shops here and all of them charge between $45-50. Another one of my friends works in the Ford garage here.
That being said, I had to have my 5.4 in the Ford garage 3 times for the a/c condensor before the truck had 15k miles on it, so I got real familiar with their prices. I finally gave up after they replaced it the last time because the warranty ran out. So now I have a truck with 37k miles that the a/c doesn't work.