There is a reason Ford does NOT sell the truck with that much power.
It CANNOT pass the durability testing at that power level.
JL

 

I'm talking about hauling that heavy *** load. You know talking to you and other v-10 guys make me want to do this...

 

Well I don't know what problems he has had or how many times his truck as been in the shop if any but he loves his truck and usually when someone truck breaks down they always bitch about it. I heard anything from that guy.

 

Hell they offer a 350 tune now but the stock tranny doesn't like it that much. Even if you put their TCM on it stills shifts and jerks really hard.

 

While I like that thread and find it kind of interesting, I have to put it in perspective. A friend of mine that live where I live is getting 12 mpg from his 6.4, I get about 10 mpg from my V10. It is not because we drive hard or anything, it's because of how the road are laid out here (or lack there of). The thread lacks a large enough sample size to make any conclusive results from. At 2 mpg better and at $0.30 more per gallon, I'm actually spending $0.02 less than him on fuel. Highway is a different story, but neither of drive highway all the time.

my point is that each engine will excel and save money under a specific set of circumstances. Saying this engine is always better or cheaper is not always true.

 

That's pretty much what I said in my other post. It all depends on what the buyer does with the truck. If you don't do that much hwy driving I see it pointless to get a psd. If you don't put on 30k miles plus a year it's pointless to get a psd. Cause I know these 6.4's don't like to sit for a long time and they don't like to idle for a long time.

 

I understand the 6.4 can make more power and is better a towing engine and gets better mpg. I'm just saying the V10 can do work too. For 99% of V10 owners it does everything they need it to without any problems. Can the PSD pull my horse trailer better? Yes. Do I need a PSD do it? No. the V10 works just fine, I happy I saved my money, I increased my 401k contribution because I'm not making an extra $125 a month in payments, I'm happy with my engine and my truck.

Why do you have to insist on slapping the fact that your engine that you paid $7k more for is so much better? I can go out and buy a Peterbilt and smash every PSD in towing. What's the point? You paid more and got more engine; I paid less, but got an engine that can do everything I need it to.

I'm glad your happy with your truck, but don't talk down to V10 owners just because we didn't want to fork over more money than we had to.

 

It's painfully obvious that you do not comprehend the durability testing process and the loading involved.
Do you even know how a waterbrake dyno operates?
The engine is held at WOT and load is applied via that waterbrake until it is slowed to the peak HP RPM. It's then ran at that exact state for 4,000 HOURS, then the SAME test is repeated at the peak TQ RPM.
That's loaded more than you'll ever be able to replicate on the street.
JL

 

I thought on that test they stopped it every 100 hours, flushed the engine with ice water, then started it right back up. Or at least I thought they did the thermo cycling with the durability testing.

 

That's fine. I know the psd isn't made for everyone or ford wouldn't give a gas option. You I don't have a problem with what so ever. It's that JL that thinks that no one should have a psd cause he thinks the v-10 is the second coming of Jesus Christ. I guess you haven't read a couple of my post I just posted about it all depends on the driver. I mainly do hwy driving and I put on 60k miles a year. The psd even in stock form would get better mpg then the v-10 and it really got better then my 08 f-250 5.4L. That thing there was a pig and gas guzzler. If you are happy with your v-10 that is great as long as it's a ford it's a awsome truck. But to some v-10 owners they don't see the point in getting a psd cause supposely the v-10 can do just as much as a psd, which in most cases is true but what mpg are you getting with the v-10, what rpm's are you at with the v-10, also can you get a warranty up to 200k miles on the engine with a v-10? Nope. Now I know in most cases people have to pay for that but in my case I have a great realtionship with my dealership and they knew how pissed off I was with my f-250 and they are the ones that talked me into getting that truck that I didn't have to pay for my extended warranty.

 

There are thermal shocks done in the testing,but I'm not sure if it's done during that portion of the testing.
JL

 

If they do SO much testing on the v-10 why do they have to be rebuilt normally around 250k miles or so? I know there are some out there higher mileage then that to get rebuilt but asking there at the ford dealership they said that is about the avg mileage for a gas engine to be reuilt in a super duty. And there are psd with several 100's thousand miles on same stock internals.

 

You do have a reading comprehension issue.
JL

 

Right I do. Have you read anything that you have posted. Whenever someone post anyting about a psd here you come saying well the v-10 can do that and save this much money blah blah blah. That is pretty much all your posts been in this thread. You basically don't see the point of poeple buying a psd cause the v-10 was touch by the had of god according to you.

 

Data please? Show me these worn out modulars at 250K miles?
JL