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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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6th gear is the same as your 5th.
slightly lower, maybe enough to push me from 8.9 mpg to a nice even 9.0.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three
Hmmmmmmm.............You must teach me your kind of math, I added it up and got zero, zippo, nada, etc. for the V10.
Depends on which diesel you are talking about. With the same rear and and tranny gearing my 2v 5.4 will outrun my 7.3 by a wide margain getting up to highway speed, so I can't imagine any v10 having a problem with it. The 7.3 gets a lot better mpg's, so it would win 2 out of 3 against the v10. A 3v v10 will accelerate on par with any psd and will get the same or better mpg's than the 6.0 and 6.4. So the v10 "could" win 3 out of 3 against the 6.0 or 6.4 depending on whose mpg numbers you use, but only 1 out of 3 against the 7.3. My next door neighbor gets 9 mpg's out of his 6.0 and it's a regular cab xl with nothing in it but him, so he's not beating too many people when it comes to mpg's.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
My next door neighbor gets 9 mpg's out of his 6.0 and it's a regular cab xl with nothing in it but him, so he's not beating too many people when it comes to mpg's.
And that is a key point many people either don't realize, or miss on purpose.

That some get one thing, some get another, with the exact same vehicle.

Dunno why, just happens.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
A 3v v10 will accelerate on par with any psd and will get the same or better mpg's than the 6.0 and 6.4. So the v10 "could" win 3 out of 3 against the 6.0 or 6.4 depending on whose mpg numbers you use, but only 1 out of 3 against the 7.3. My next door neighbor gets 9 mpg's out of his 6.0 and it's a regular cab xl with nothing in it but him, so he's not beating too many people when it comes to mpg's.
Is your neighbor missing an injector or two? I am mad mine only gets 9 mpg towing my 8,000 pound brick wall of a toy hauler. I am sorry, but there is no way any v10 will come close in mileage to any 6.0 that is in proper running order. I will even give you a v10 with some minor mods like an air intake and programmer, regular cab, short bed and a lifted crew cab 1 ton long bed 6.0. Ain't gonna happen.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
Is your neighbor missing an injector or two? I am mad mine only gets 9 mpg towing my 8,000 pound brick wall of a toy hauler. I am sorry, but there is no way any v10 will come close in mileage to any 6.0 that is in proper running order. I will even give you a v10 with some minor mods like an air intake and programmer, regular cab, short bed and a lifted crew cab 1 ton long bed 6.0. Ain't gonna happen.
Like I already mentioned, my friend get 12 mpg with his 6.4 and I get 10 with my V10. The 6.0 and 6.4 were not as great with mpg's as everyone believes, in stock form that is. And they get even worse when you get into to stop and go traffic.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
I am mad mine only gets 9 mpg towing my 8,000 pound brick wall of a toy hauler.
That's exactly what my V10 truck gets when towing our 33' 8000+lb travel trailer.
JL
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Like I already mentioned, my friend get 12 mpg with his 6.4 and I get 10 with my V10. The 6.0 and 6.4 were not as great with mpg's as everyone believes, in stock form that is. And they get even worse when you get into to stop and go traffic.
I didn't say anything about the 6.4, but the 6.0 gets roughly the same mileage as the 7.3. The 6.0 in stock or modded form gets great mileage, unless you are missing an injector.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
That's exactly what my V10 truck gets when towing our 33' 8000+lb travel trailer.
JL
Not at 75 mph and through major mountain passes at 7k feet. I get 12 when towing like most people at 55/60.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
Not at 75 mph and through major mountain passes at 7k feet. I get 12 when towing like most people at 55/60.
You're insinuating that I tow at 55-60 mph.
Last time I checked-you were not in my truck when I was on vacation.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
That's exactly what my V10 truck gets when towing our 33' 8000+lb travel trailer.
JL
Those hills...errr....I mean highway interchanges of Houston must be brutal! They may drag my mileage down to 12 towing my 14k travel trailer.

All kidding aside, 9 mpg for a V10 is not that bad at all. I would have expected a little worse.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush117
Those hills...errr....I mean highway interchanges of Houston must be brutal! They may drag my mileage down to 12 towing my 14k travel trailer.

All kidding aside, 9 mpg for a V10 is not that bad at all. I would have expected a little worse.
I don't live in Houston.
The absolute worst mileage this truck has ever got was 7.5, and that was on a trip returning from Arkansas @ 65mph into a 20-30mph headwind.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush117
Those hills...errr....I mean highway interchanges of Houston must be brutal! They may drag my mileage down to 12 towing my 14k travel trailer.

All kidding aside, 9 mpg for a V10 is not that bad at all. I would have expected a little worse.
Interestingly, I've never hit below 8. After getting 8-9 all winter long (read locked hubs on unplowed mountain roads and 4x4 atleast 25% of the time), I was expecting to get something like 4 mpg when I hooked up my 12-13k lb trailer. I was surprised when I got 8.4 mpg in the mountains at 60-65 mph. During the summer the mpg went to 10, and now that I'm approaching 10k miles on it, it's getting 11 and closing in on 12 mpg in the city. This is stop and go traffic (45 minutes to go 4.5 miles).

It will be interesting to see if my friend with the 6.4 gets better mpg as he hits 10k miles, because I'm slowly creeping up on his mpg.

I do have another friend with a Toyota Tundra who pulls a 8k lb camper, he get 4 mpg when towing. I have to mention my towing mpg all the time to him. Then tell him he would get better mpg if he didn't burn rice.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
Is your neighbor missing an injector or two? I am mad mine only gets 9 mpg towing my 8,000 pound brick wall of a toy hauler. I am sorry, but there is no way any v10 will come close in mileage to any 6.0 that is in proper running order. I will even give you a v10 with some minor mods like an air intake and programmer, regular cab, short bed and a lifted crew cab 1 ton long bed 6.0. Ain't gonna happen.
His truck is in proper running order and only has about 35k miles on it. A lot of our clients where I work use 6.0's for work trucks and usually haul about 2-3k lbs on them and they all get around 10-12 mpg's. With proper tuning I have seen them get around 19-20 mpg's, but I am just talking about stock trucks.

In the days of the 6.9 and 7.3 the big advantages of the diesel were that they got a lot better mpg's, diesel was cheaper than gas, they were easier to work on, more reliable and didn't cost that much more than a gasser to buy new. Since the 6.0 came out, they have gotten less reliable(while gasser quality has improved greatly), diesel costs more than gas, the mpg advantage is so close that it is offest by the price of fuel and the gasser is now easier to work on.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Like I already mentioned, my friend get 12 mpg with his 6.4 and I get 10 with my V10. The 6.0 and 6.4 were not as great with mpg's as everyone believes, in stock form that is. And they get even worse when you get into to stop and go traffic.
I "borrowed" my truck for 2 days before I bought it and if it was getting 12 driving down the road, I would have avoided it. Of course, most of my driving is longer distance, on fairly flat ground as the mountains are on my left heading North. BTW, my 6.4 gets the same mileage sitting at a traffic light as the newest Toyota Prius model.

I finally drove a 7.3 yesterday to pick up lunch as I had a 16' trailer behind mine with a broken landing leg. Sorry to all the 7.3 owners, but if yours is stock, don't try and come after a 6.4. You'll get embarrassed. To those who have never driven a 6.4 and think it's like a 7.3, or has the same power or less, you really need to drive one...Then this thread would die, or get renamed the 7.3PSD vs V10 thread.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
I "borrowed" my truck for 2 days before I bought it and if it was getting 12 driving down the road, I would have avoided it. Of course, most of my driving is longer distance, on fairly flat ground as the mountains are on my left heading North. BTW, my 6.4 gets the same mileage sitting at a traffic light as the newest Toyota Prius model.

I finally drove a 7.3 yesterday to pick up lunch as I had a 16' trailer behind mine with a broken landing leg. Sorry to all the 7.3 owners, but if yours is stock, don't try and come after a 6.4. You'll get embarrassed. To those who have never driven a 6.4 and think it's like a 7.3, or has the same power or less, you really need to drive one...Then this thread would die, or get renamed the 7.3PSD vs V10 thread.
He speaks the truth.
 
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