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From: Pa
I would also like to ask why you lock your hubs in the winter? Do you have a manual xfer? what are the benefits of locking them if you have ESOF? I'm asking as mine goes into 4WD when I flip the switch. Does it actually "lock" the front end when you lock the hubs making it a front-wheel-drive with the rear wheels acting as normal? The book is pretty ambiguous.
With the ESOF system you turn the switch into 4wd and the hubs lock automatically (via vaccum) and the transfer case shifts into 4wd (electric motor). The ESOF works great when it is working and can be problematic, mainly the hubs. Plus a replacement set of ESOF hubs is around $550 for 2. If you ever get into a situation where the transfer case is shifting into 4wd fine but your 4wd doesn't work, manually lock the hubs.
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From: Farms of Duplin County
Oh no! After continuing to read these posts I just realized my truck isn't a real truck. It's clearly not capable of towing/hauling in league with a diesel of comparable year. Maybe I need to sue Ford for making and selling me a fake truck. The wife is going to be mad that I am going to have to buy a diesel to haul horses and hay.
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From: Melissa TX
Now do you think when you buy a v-10 it comes with a purse?
I'm just kidding v-10 guys cause I know how sensitive you guys are.
I'm just kidding v-10 guys cause I know how sensitive you guys are.
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From: Farms of Duplin County
Yep I'm not a trucker and I'm crying that my motor is clearly not designed for towing/hauling anything of significance.
What are the engineers at Ford thinking?
FORD CLASS-EXCLUSIVE V10 GAS ENGINE, TORQSHIFT TRANSMISSION WILL POWER MEDIUM-DUTY CHASSIS CABS | Ford Motor Company Newsroom
What are the engineers at Ford thinking?
FORD CLASS-EXCLUSIVE V10 GAS ENGINE, TORQSHIFT TRANSMISSION WILL POWER MEDIUM-DUTY CHASSIS CABS | Ford Motor Company Newsroom
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From: Melissa TX
Yep I'm not a trucker and I'm crying that my motor is clearly not designed for towing/hauling anything of significance.
What are the engineers at Ford thinking?
FORD CLASS-EXCLUSIVE V10 GAS ENGINE, TORQSHIFT TRANSMISSION WILL POWER MEDIUM-DUTY CHASSIS CABS | Ford Motor Company Newsroom
What are the engineers at Ford thinking?
FORD CLASS-EXCLUSIVE V10 GAS ENGINE, TORQSHIFT TRANSMISSION WILL POWER MEDIUM-DUTY CHASSIS CABS | Ford Motor Company Newsroom
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Of course there will be, never been a dispute about that in this epic thread. What they were thinking was "hey let's provide an inexpensive option that is capable of meeting the same needs" and then another engineer was like " hey let's also make it so reliable it will stay in the line-up for a long time" and then bam there is the V10 with minimal changes.
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From: Melissa TX
Of course there will be, never been a dispute about that in this epic thread. What they were thinking was "hey let's provide an inexpensive option that is capable of meeting the same needs" and then another engineer was like " hey let's also make it so reliable it will stay in the line-up for a long time" and then bam there is the V10 with minimal changes.
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From: Isanti, MN
It's a great engine because it's large enough(6.8L) to have a high peak torque and HP rating and is built upon proven architecture that allows it to have a nice, flat torque curve and is known to last over 300,000 miles. This can be done with a V8.
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From: Melissa TX
There's no reason a large displacement V8 wouldn't do as well or better than the current gen V10 does. It's not a great engine simply because it has 10 cylinders!
It's a great engine because it's large enough(6.8L) to have a high peak torque and HP rating and is built upon proven architecture that allows it to have a nice, flat torque curve and is known to last over 300,000 miles. This can be done with a V8.
It's a great engine because it's large enough(6.8L) to have a high peak torque and HP rating and is built upon proven architecture that allows it to have a nice, flat torque curve and is known to last over 300,000 miles. This can be done with a V8.
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There's no reason a large displacement V8 wouldn't do as well or better than the current gen V10 does. It's not a great engine simply because it has 10 cylinders!
It's a great engine because it's large enough(6.8L) to have a high peak torque and HP rating and is built upon proven architecture that allows it to have a nice, flat torque curve and is known to last over 300,000 miles. This can be done with a V8.
It's a great engine because it's large enough(6.8L) to have a high peak torque and HP rating and is built upon proven architecture that allows it to have a nice, flat torque curve and is known to last over 300,000 miles. This can be done with a V8.
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From: Farms of Duplin County
Who knows maybe it was because of this legendary thread?
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My mileage only blows...or sucks...when I'm up in the mountains. I haven't done a reset in on my ampg setting in a little over 3000 miles, and I'm getting 17.2 combined as I've been in the city and mountains lately. My last hand calculation put me at 15.6 for the tank and was all hills and city. I run my tires at 70psi, and check them every morning as one of them was 4psi low. Also changed my fuel filters the day after I burned through the dealer tank of fuel with permission from the dealership since I have a maintenance package that covers them) The truck had been sitting for a year as it's an 09.
Getting ready for my first oil change, and haven't grown any fuel. (They want the truck at 7500 miles for the first one, and 10000 after unless I am growing fuel) The way I drive it, I should be good as all my regens are on the highway. I idle for 30 seconds in the morning, and 30 when I come home (unless the turbos were were under heavy use when I pull up to park)...that's what the book tells me to do.
I don't understand the 12mpg unless there are a lot of short (less than 25 miles) trips on the trucks.
Getting ready for my first oil change, and haven't grown any fuel. (They want the truck at 7500 miles for the first one, and 10000 after unless I am growing fuel) The way I drive it, I should be good as all my regens are on the highway. I idle for 30 seconds in the morning, and 30 when I come home (unless the turbos were were under heavy use when I pull up to park)...that's what the book tells me to do.
I don't understand the 12mpg unless there are a lot of short (less than 25 miles) trips on the trucks.
My trip is 4.5 miles, and can take me about 45 minutes.