Quote"Stan Meyers claims that you would get over 100% efficiency using his design but I still haven't seen any perpetual motion machines, which would be the first thing I would build if it did in fact work. Which is why I take it all with a grain of salt.

Do we not get more energy out of the gas and diesel we get out of the ground than we put into getting it,hho has nothing to do with prepetual motion idea of something for nothing as water is used up..in other words something is sacraficed to gain the fuel..

 

Not to take this thread too far off topic..... but I think if that were the case then propane and nitrous wouldn't work either.

The pilot shot in a 7.3 split shot injector is a mechanical event. The injector only fires once, there is simply a small fuel rail in the injector that bleeds off a tiny amount of fuel in front of the "main shot" to increase the size and speed of the flame front.

Typically split shot injectors respond very well to the other catylists we introduce, so I think there is still hope for us.

 

ok guys, my frist road test,topped off tanks ,reset odometer,drove 48.2 mi.at 60-70 mph.same pump,topped off with 2.186 gallons if my math is right thats 22.05 mpg. my average mpg is 12.5, thats with gas prduction at 1qtpm 1996 f350 4x4 7.3 psd,auto transw/414,000mi.

 

(sits up in chair)

Interesting. Are you able to repeat the same test anytime soon? A single test is not really conclusive, but this is a good start none the less.

This thread is actually maturing!!!!!!

I might have some spare time this weekend to get back in on the game and make my new flat plate generator.

 

Well as this sounds good it could mostly be due to the conditions. Have you done the same test w/o hho? If your average for a tank is 12.5, then I would like to see what your average for a tank is w/ hho with your normal weekly driving....not the "I'm trying to get better mpg driving" YKMIM.........

 

this was my first test w/hho, iam the org.owner ,bought truck off the show room floor.in jan 96,the best mpg iever got was 15.25,300.000mi ago.have done pump to pump records from day one,my 3 tanks hold 127 gal ,i keep the 2 factory tanks as reserve,run on the 90gal.my 90 gal tank avg. is 12.5 i also do not have alite foot,i like to get down the road,i will be doing a test pulling my 15000 lb enclose trailer soon .i will post results

 

forgot to add that when pulling the trailer my mpg drops to8-10 depending onthe road ,head or tail winds,flat or hills.

 

I look forward to your next MPG results with great interest.

 

hi guys ,just found a web site you might want to check out ,they have 30-200 amp relays,circuit breakers,groments, wiringproducts.com

 

well the a/c relay didnt last long ,the coil burned out today ,it was a 24v.thought it was worth a try.

 

But during the explosion in the engine it turns back to water, or steam, which you could just run back to your water source. Since it is still steam and very hot you could run it through another engine cycle, or just dump that extra energy through a radiator to turn it back to water. The suggestion you make that water is 'used up' is completely incorrect.

You cannot just run the emissions from your engine through a radiator to turn it back into gasoline or diesel, because the fuel has been actually used up in that process.


Consider finding oil in the ground the equivalent of finding 'HHO' in the ground.
And consider water to be equivlaent to finding the emissions of a gasoline engine in the ground.
Water and emissions are both waste products which provide no energy.

Oil and 'HHO' are both things that produce energy.
Making synthetic gasoline or making 'HHO' both require more energy than they deliver.

The whole topic of running 'HHO' engines by themselves is null and void.




This post is all about using 'HHO' (hydrogen and oxygen) to burn all of the diesel in an engine(more efficiency and less pollutants) as well as possibly having a slightly colder burn(only possible with large amounts of 'HHO') so as to not create as much NOx. Personally I hope it works.... the diesel engine is definitely due for an upgrade, and with this it would outperform a gasoline engine on emissions as well as efficiency(which it already does).

 

So doug, when are you going to try this on your engine? Shouldn't take too much since you already have a generator....

 

I just have to get my hands on an electrolyte. Another week or two I would guess. I'll have a lot more time next week to go to the pool supply store.

Thanks again thedaddycat!

 

HA Dougphysics used HHO 4 times in one post. Good to see that you have come around Doug.... Just messin with ya

 

Doug if you'll look back several pages i think i was explaining to you that we are not tring to run on hydrogen,just inhance our fuel mileage through better fuel burn...
I have thought that to make it entirely free fuel use some of the many spare alternators in the barn,from pulled engines.Rig up my own wind mill to drive them via belts and pulleys,should last just as well as a automobile set up if done right,no i'm not a physist i am a A&P mechanic and long time diesel mech.
Anywho this would charge my extra battery at home during the day and then i swap out at night and use the fresh one the next day,etc.If it works its free energy,also a solar panel or two to boost output would'nt hurt..But i really want to see more people say its working before i go any further,, i'm a bit of a skeptic now myself ,,,,wayne