Well, I got 100% lye from ACE hardware.

And as far as cell orientation, +11111111-11111111+ like the SMACK style worked like GANGBUSTERS as far as producing HHO bubbles through my bubbler on Sunday, and my battery charger is only a 10 amp model that might have gone as far as 12 amps as the needle went past the 10 about as far as the distance from 8A to 10A.

I have yet to measure the volume, but will get a one liter bottle for next weekend and will verify.

 

I have changed mine back to +nnn-nnn+nnn-nnn+nnn-nnn+ for a 25 plate wiring configuration.

Since my plates are so long I am also going to locate the negatives on one end, the positives on the other end which I hope will increase production a bit more.

 

So now you have (4) + leads and (4) - leads connected to your plates....how did this affect your amperage? And this is how you've created so much more gas?

 

Anybody heard from milehigh? I would love to know how his experimenting is going.....

 

Been out of the loop for a while.

So let me get this straight, there are those on this thread that think that us PSD6.0 drivers are not going to see any gains without huge gas production and computer/sesor modification? Does anyone have any hard evidence that this is the case or is it just speculation?

Don't get me wrong, it's just that this thread has had its share of doubters that think even modest gains are not possible so I'm just trying to filter the BS from the fact.

 

Milehihydroguy has seen very significant gains on his PSD, according to his inputs here! Testing with a smaller system to prove HHO will work is only reasonable!

If you lookup hydrojuice34 on youtube you will find a vendor who gets thousands for their HHO system for big rigs and has happy clients. I think we here are about cutting and trying and sharing....I'm leaving the road for others this summer witch is my usual anyway and by the time I have built my 4th system it will probably be fairly advanced! Fall is my driving ( and testing this year) season.

I'm not rushing into PWMs account I don't believe the ones I have seen for this application are adequately developed yet...I have said previously a multi 100 watt output audio amplifier ( useing MOSFETS also ) would be more reliable than some of the PWMs currently available!

 

I received my March_labs HHO system, which was purchased on Ebay several weeks ago... closer look is that Dave S was right; its a +-+-+- device with 50 little plates , certainly not what I was hoping for. You can access/download their user manual by doing a google search on marchlabs...those here who are serious will find it interesting. Very interesting is their Ebay customer feedback: some who have just got the kit in their hands and in a hurry to give feedback were very positive ha! wait till they install it! I will continue to watch marchlabs Ebay feedback and probably be amused, I won't post their feedback for several weeks. Their secondary container cooler/bubbler unit is to small and probably needs to be 2ft above the electrolizer to get any "pumping action"...I'm still thinking how to implement that! The plate configuration will work better on 6V absolutely not on 24V unless with a PWM ,without major overheating problems.

I did have my IDIer with two 6V batteries in series which is a much better arrangement than two 12V in parallel (battery life!) the price was right cause the batteries were from my friends motor home when he replaced them all and gave me the pick of several ( their new price $200+ per) . I'm now back to wallymart 2x12V w 36month free replacement +2yr more prorated warranty out the door price of $170 couldn't beat that with a stick !

I don't like to type otherwise I would leave more here... so l8tr. Diesel price just down the road dropped overnight from $4.529 to $4.249..I think Ill go down and fill up again...

 

Actually three of one and four of the other.

From what I see volume wise, it don't make any difference which is positive and which is negative.

Amps still adjusted by the anount of NaOH in the water, and I am keepeing it around 40 amps total.
With a bit of wiring as long as the temps stay under control I could wire this for 3 or 4 stages and 15 or 20 amps per stage if I wanted to.

I am geting where I want to be, it is just taking longer than I want to get there.

 

Maybe this plasmatron technology would solve the problem of producing enough hydrogen for our diesel engines? What do you all think?

YouTube - MIT Plasmatron - Principles of the Pantone GEET Device

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehicles...06/20_cohn.pdf

http://www.electrofluidsystems.com/n...R-2004-087.pdf

By the way, I tried to find the latest info for ArvinMeritor's work on producing a commercial version of the plasmatron, and it looks like it will be at least after 2010 before they put it on the market.

 

Hello all.......

I did receive thedaddycat's kit and it looks good. I've just been too busy to install it yet. Hopefully I will get a chance to play around with it this weekend. Perhaps capture some hydrogen and blow it up for kicks.... just to make sure it's producing enough.


Out of curiosity, what have been the best results so far for the different engines.

 

Hey RARE_1 .... the fact is that there is not a single study(that i'm aware of) showing any gains at all in mpg. So if you're going for facts... follow the M.I.T study and the other links i've posted.... those are facts.


Disclaimer.... it's ridiculously easy to make a study showing mpg gains, but.... you do need a working prototype. And if you happen to have a working prototype and live in Maine, bring it over to UMAINE in Orono and I will make sure there is a complete study made.... and you will be published... and I will be too

As far as better emissions, it seems attainable without much loss in mpg, but considering the fines for bad 18 wheeler emissions in some states, it may make sense. Still I haven't seen a study. All a study consists of is reproducable evidence.

By the way there are graduates from UMaine selling these kits in the Orono/Bangor area that have graduated from UMaine in Physics, but please don't buy one considering they would never bring their prototype to campus for testing. And they swear to me it works, LOL.

 

lowell75, those comments to dougphysics were uncalled for. He is one of the very few people that have a background education that would cover what is being tried in this thread, that is willing to keep an open mind and even try a generator on his own vehicle.

If you have done any real research at all, what dougphysics has said previously has been said on many, many different websites, including colleges with outstanding reps. Almost all the research has been with trying to run solely on Browns gas. What we are doing here is basically the same as propane injection.

Stooping to name calling is unreasonable. I applaud dougphysics for continuing to post without replying to the name calling in kind.

We all have differences of opinion and that is what makes a place like this great and how we all learn something.

 

I have to agree on both points. When I saw this last night I was going to make a pointed reply but thought I'd wait until today when I had a chance to calm down and consider my words. As my grandfather used to say, "There are three things you can never have back: Time wasted, Words spoken, and Opportunities neglected".

MistakenID, I thank you for speaking out. Lowell75, I'm just going to report your uncalled for and offensive post...

Dougphysics, I wish you well with my unit. I hope you can help us all out with the testing you do.

 

You don't read very well do you...what we're doing here is research! Dougphysics is only about telling us we are wasting our time!

 

That is not the issue. The issue was your reaction to it. The "offending" post has been removed, lets all get past it please.