What are you using to measure amperage? Good luck w/ your testing!

 

i'm using a craftsman ac/dc voltage, ac/dc current 400a ac/dc clamp meter, model3482369

 

unoffical update,drove 30 mi.to job hiway job to house 12mi. hiway 21mi. city, total 63mi.fuel gage is down less than 1/8 below full on the 18gal tank.i know that dont mean much today,but it looks promising,will see what happens in aday or two. the city & hiway miles are rounded up or down

 

Good deal,try to use most of the tank so as to be more reliable figure...remember miles/gals=mpg not as some do,i got 180 miles out 0f 3/4 tank where before i got 150 miles..Thats meaningless..

 

yea i know waynebo,iwas just posting some unoffical data ,i'm working on useing up the rest of the tank, i've done pump-pump records on this truck for 12 yrs. have not seen anyone else post any results for some time now.

 

eagerly awaiting the results!

 

Well i went ahead and installed mine on sunday to see what it would do. I was at 3/4 tank then so results will be a week or so coming in.

 

everything was going good untill the bubbler/reservoir vapor locked,started sending water to the engine,trash that idea for now,starting over on the 2nd tank,sure can tell when the gen is working right.

 

I have been using HHO for 3 months and I am very happy with the results on the engine. The operation is smooth and quiet. I used the electrolyzer I built for 2 months with no efie installed. I decided one day to build ad install a maf sensor enhancer on my 1996 Explorer 5.0. I have been pleasantly surprised with the results. My mileage increased from 18 mpg to 23 mpg on average. Does not seem like much but makes a difference at the pump. I have been packaging and selling my MAP/MAF Sensor Enhancers for a while now and have heard great things. If anyone out there needs a great deal on efie, or has any questions please visit my website.

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the results are in , not worth a @#*!#^, over all miles driven 423.3 on 37.226 gal.thats 11.37mpg. on two tanks .ithink the 1997 pcm figuered out what was going on,need to get one of those efi thing-a-majegs,

 

Hey sam-e, just so you and other know there is nothing on a diesel engine--computer controlled or not--- that will pick up on the HH or th O. Diesel engines are run completely on fuel control. There for the more fuel the more RPMs/power. gassers use O2 sensors that detect the amount of O in the exhaust then adjust with more or less fuel. That is why they say you have to trick the computer in a gasser with the O2 sensor or the MAP/MAF sensor. these sensors tell the computer how much "air" is in the system. you tell the computer that there is less air then it wont put in as much fuel there for getting better fuel mileage. There are a couple of thing I see here. 1--how many people have roached there engine from running it to lean? fuel acts as a coolant in a way. If you run an engine lean it creates high combustion chamber temperatures. in a gasser you then get what is known as "spark knock". to much of that and you will burn a hole in your piston (NOT good). 2nd (I have not run a generator on a gasser but this is my knowledge) The O will burn during combustion...so if you are adding HH why does the O not burn???? I don't know the ratios of AF with H or do you get a perfect 2-1 of H and O?? maybe it is the fact that you are putting in more O then you need for the HH But iam not real sure on that one. 3RD I think our big problem here is like some have said---I don't think that 1-2 LPM is enough to do anything on these big engines. I think that we need 5-6 and up to do anything. If you think of it in simple terms with a 7.3L displacement thats how much air you are taking in every 2 revolutions. So thats about 3650 LPM at a 1000RPM idle. then you have to count for boost which i don't know the math for that but it makes it a lot more so you have to ask yourself----Is .5-1LPM going to make a difference even at idle of 3650LPM of air????------I doubt it. I wouldn't think that 5LPM would but Milehigh is said to have proof that it does.

I did install mine but making a long 400 mile run I had some issues with it about 150 miles in so I could not get a good test. I just filled up yesterday and iam trying again BUT iam only making 1.5LPM so I don't expect much if anything. I wish i had a gasser (i do have a mini van but not good for this)to hook one up on and watch some numbers on the scanner to see what its seeing. to know if its really picking up on the extra O or not.

anyway sorry for all the Hs and Os. Its just a little easier and I think you all know what i mean.

 

thanks dlmcb,so it looks like i need to increce the hho to 5-10lpm? ,i have the map enhancer turned just this side of turning the check engine lite on. good luck on your next run

 

It might not sound like much, but its more than enough to make a gasoline engine run haywire.

I've been messing with these devices for a while, and my verdict is that they do work, but the gains arent worth the BS of installing a real good system, and worrying about it all the time. At first I was thinking I got 5 MPG better, but after many months, its closer to 3. If you were making 20 thousand kilometers a month on a delivery route or something, by all means pursue the HHO dream, but if your like most people, and MAYBE make 5000 a month, dont bother- itl be more pain than gain. Notice how truckers use these systems more than anyone, and consistently have good results. Nothing like the 50% increase the company says, but still pays for itself. To make a system in a truck, it starts out a simple looking device, by the time you add a cooling system, filler, etc etc the thing is simply a pain, and in the way all the time.

 

Sam-e, I think really the more the better with diesel. Your MAP enhanser may give you a little better milage because your telling the computer that there is not as much air going into the system by means of boost. Thats all a MAP sensor does. Its like a boost guage for the computer. BUT by telling the computer there is not as much air going in it wont put in as much fuel therefor cutting back on power so you have to hit the pedal a little more. Thats were you hope the HHO comes into play so you can back off a little again and hope to gain milage. hope this helps ya.

 

dlmcbm,with the 1qtpm i've noticed it takes less pedel to get rolling,and a little less pedel to maintain speed,is there any other sensors that can be enhansed to incress mpg ??such as the accel. pedal sensor, injection control pressure sensor,baro press. sensor??? once i get the hho production up to 5 or more lpm