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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TXPSD
Would the above give me what I am looking for? Safely?
The short answer is "yes."

For long answers, wait for Vic's reply ... he is our local SCMT guru, and used to be "the" guy who programmed it over at SCMT, so nobody knows better. My truck just turned 10K, almost 9K with the SCMT, and no problems whatsoever. Fuel economy is better with the tuner (when I stay out of the throttle), and it's been a blast -- best $$ I've ever spent on a vehicle!!

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Steve
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Banshee Ben
I totally trust you but am missing the difference on the page


http://www.motorhaven.com/catalog/ca...20_page_1.html

Shows 03 f350 at +150 hp max
the 05 350 at +99 hp at max

I have a 04 I suppose I need the 1704-a
To say this question has been overexplained would be an understatement.
It hits kind of a touchy spot with me, because some seem to try to circumvent the correct part number, in search of (unsuccessfully) doing something special to their vehicle.
Obviously, you are not doing this, but this question has come up many times.
Last time:

Use the correct part number for the year, HP numbers are dictated by the truck and box code, NOT by a chart, so because one year makes more power on a chart, this has nothing to do with the part number that is correct for your truck.

1704 has been superseded by 1704-A (more box codes have been added).

1704 fits 2003-2004
When the 05 came out, the 05 files (box codes) were added, and the part number was renamed "1704-A", this was mainly for tracking purposes so it would be known that existing tuners on shelves did not fit 2005 trucks.

1704-A fits 2003-2005
1704 will NOT work on 2005 truck (except in a few oddball cases, because some files overlap due to engineering paranoia (to avoid customer hassles with early and late production vehicles)
1706 fits 2006 trucks.

This is all that needs to be known.

1704 is "discontinued", but is valid for 2003-2004 model year trucks.
There is no difference in choosing a 1704 or 1704-A if your truck is an 03 or 04 model year, but if you have an 05, you MUST use the 1704-A.

The changes in the 1704-A include additions of 05 files, which has no effect on 03 or 04 trucks.

1706 fits 2006 (and only 2006) model year trucks.


Notice I said "model year".
This refers to your title and VIN, not your production date.
Furthermore, some 04 trucks have "03" tuning strategies and some 05 trucks have 04 strategies. These overlaps have been covered by slight the part number revisions to avoid customer hassles.

It's really simple to make the correct selection:

When you buy your truck, they tell you what year it is.
We all know the model year of our vehicle.

-If it's an 03 or 04, use a 1704 or 1704-A
-If it's an 05, use only the 1704-A
-If it's an 06, use only the 1706

Those three bullet points should answer any and all questions about selecting the correct part number.

I hope this post does not come across as condascending, I'm just spelling it out to make sure it is extremely clear so there are no misunderstandings.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Thanks Planecrazy. After reading back through the threads quite a ways I was ready to pull the trigger last night. I logged onto motorhaven.com, as they are a sponsor, and selected the MBRP turbo back pro series ss exhaust and the SCMT. The problem was at checkout where it says the billing and shipping addresses must be the same as on the card. I am a catastrophe adjuster with an insurance company and while I live in Texas I spend about 9 months out of the year on the road. My truck and I are currently in Mississippi working Huricane Katrina damage and need the items shipped here. I called and left a message and followed up with e-mail to motorhaven about this. Hopefully it will not be a problem and I will hear from them soon. Thanks again for your input.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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how many people out there have had a problem with coolant blowing out excessively with superchips programmer. I'm at a point where i cannot use it in tow or high performance,for this reason. thanks, jason
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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how many people out there have had a problem with coolant blowing out excessively with superchips programmer. I'm at a point where i cannot use it in tow or high performance,for this reason. thanks, jason
You have lots of reading to do in this thread =o)

Set your truck back to stock and go to Ford.
Tell them it pukes stock while pulling loads.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
You have lots of reading to do in this thread =o)

Set your truck back to stock and go to Ford.
Tell them it pukes stock while pulling loads.
I am new to this and have read until my eyes are crossed. It seems that most here say use the Superchips tuner but my mechanic who works at the Ford dealership says use the Diablo! My truck is an 06 diesel 4X4 four door auto trans with the factory 20 inch tires and wheels........Who do you trust your mechanic or the ones posting here?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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welcome to FTE. Jim(VIC_) used to work at superchips. He has given tons of great info on the site and I personally would trust him. I know talking to some of the mechanics that i wouldnt let them work on my truck after some of the comments they made to me.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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I'll second that sentiment ... mechanics often don't have a clue when it comes to comparing several products. He may have personal experience with the Diablo, and based ONLY on that assumes there isn't anything better.

Vic (Jim), on the other hand, probably has had personal experience with ALL the major players in the tuner business (as a function of his former job at SCMT), so while he has a personal stake in the product he once worked on the more compelling reason to trust him is that he thoroughly understands the strategies used in each product, and can offer up a unique perspective with regard to what's best in a particular situation.

Those of us who aren't professionally drag racing or majorly modding our trucks don't need some of the custom features available with some other products, so it really comes down to which one will give us the most bang for our buck AND do it safely...

Regards,
Steve
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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I feel safe with the Superchips programmer based on what I have read. The mechanic at Ford said I would have problems because of the 20 factory tires and wheels. In other words there is no provision for it in the SC tuner. I am by no means a hot rodder just want the extra power on occasion with the increase in mileage. Gonna pull the trigger before Christmas on one or the other. Thanks for the info in advance!
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PS 06
I feel safe with the Superchips programmer based on what I have read. The mechanic at Ford said I would have problems because of the 20 factory tires and wheels. In other words there is no provision for it in the SC tuner. I am by no means a hot rodder just want the extra power on occasion with the increase in mileage. Gonna pull the trigger before Christmas on one or the other. Thanks for the info in advance!
The Microtuner doesn't touch the ABS module or VID calibration, so it will in no way affect the truck with the 20" wheels.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
The Microtuner doesn't touch the ABS module or VID calibration, so it will in no way affect the truck with the 20" wheels.
Nice sig.

LOL
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
Nice sig.

LOL


Those torch gasses bring the EGT's up a little quick

Does acetylene void my warranty? Will the 1704 be OK to use with the MAPP Gas? My dad's brother's aunt's cousin's dog's best friend's owner told me I should stop using the programmers and use the Edge only because the programmers shift too hard and will break the tranny...is this true?
 

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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You mean the signature is a joke? I just ordered the SCMT and an MBRP turbo back exhaust, but after viewing you signature I knew it wouldn't be enough.
My buddy Wil E. Coyote let me know that I can order some bad *** mods from ACME, can't wait to see their catalog...
 

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TXPSD
You mean the signature is a joke? I just ordered the SCMT and an MBRP turbo back exhaust, but after viewing you signature I knew it wouldn't be enough.
My buddy Wil E. Coyote let me know that I can order some bad *** mods from ACME, can't wait to see their catalog...
The sig is a joke. As a matter of fact, it's an extreme case of a joke.
A lot of people blew their trucks up stacking a lot of ridiculous things together and Matt is making fun of it in his sig.

The SCMT and an exhaust is enough.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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I get the joke and my comments were meant to show extreme sarcasm. Of course, that can be tough to tell with the printed word. Don't you remember your Warner Bros. cartoons? Wil E. Coyote was always ordering the latest and greatest gadgets: rocket skates, jet packs, etc. The outcome was always the same, crash and burn.
 
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