Superchips 6.0 Microtuner Thread
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I don't have the exact revision info available right now, but my 1704 was purchased almost exactly a year ago, for whatever that's worth. My truck is an AUG '04 build (early '05 model -- basically an '04 in disguise), and I don't believe any reflashes have been made by Ford, at least not to my knowledge.
The point you make about the varying power levels (based on model year, etc.) is EXACTLY why I'm looking forward to the ability to do a direct comparison of the two SCMT's on my truck ... then we rule out differences from vehicle to vehicle.
Oh, one other thing ... the "abrupt" cruise control disengage occurs with the 1805 as well, so they didn't get around to addressing that yet..
Regards,
Steve
The point you make about the varying power levels (based on model year, etc.) is EXACTLY why I'm looking forward to the ability to do a direct comparison of the two SCMT's on my truck ... then we rule out differences from vehicle to vehicle.
Oh, one other thing ... the "abrupt" cruise control disengage occurs with the 1805 as well, so they didn't get around to addressing that yet..
Regards,
Steve
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I have read through most of this thread.... I might have missed it, but I currently have a 2003 6.0L PSD. I am already putting out over 30lbs boost stock when runing on the highway and mashing the pedal to the floor. I do not want to add too much more boost to this.
Does the tuner just add boost on top of what the factory setup is making or does it map to a max boost level no matter the baseline? I knwo several of us have different baselines for our boost numbers. I am running an ISSPRO mech boost guage.
Also, I jsut read about the new 1805 version, what tire sizes will this adjust for? Thanks in advance.....
Does the tuner just add boost on top of what the factory setup is making or does it map to a max boost level no matter the baseline? I knwo several of us have different baselines for our boost numbers. I am running an ISSPRO mech boost guage.
Also, I jsut read about the new 1805 version, what tire sizes will this adjust for? Thanks in advance.....
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Originally Posted by Planecrazy
I don't have the exact revision info available right now, but my 1704 was purchased almost exactly a year ago, for whatever that's worth. My truck is an AUG '04 build (early '05 model -- basically an '04 in disguise), and I don't believe any reflashes have been made by Ford, at least not to my knowledge.
The point you make about the varying power levels (based on model year, etc.) is EXACTLY why I'm looking forward to the ability to do a direct comparison of the two SCMT's on my truck ... then we rule out differences from vehicle to vehicle.
Oh, one other thing ... the "abrupt" cruise control disengage occurs with the 1805 as well, so they didn't get around to addressing that yet..
Regards,
Steve
The point you make about the varying power levels (based on model year, etc.) is EXACTLY why I'm looking forward to the ability to do a direct comparison of the two SCMT's on my truck ... then we rule out differences from vehicle to vehicle.
Oh, one other thing ... the "abrupt" cruise control disengage occurs with the 1805 as well, so they didn't get around to addressing that yet..
Regards,
Steve
What I'm trying to say is the 1704 had many changes throughout it's life, many revisions (not talking about Ford revisions).
You could put 5 different 1704's on your truck, and if the 1704s have different production dates, they will all vary a little, even on the same truck.
In the name of improvement/progress, tuner databases change overtime to add in new developments.
If you had your tuner for a year without sending it back to superchips, your 1704 will differ slighly from a fresh out of production 1704.
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Originally Posted by stroked250
I have read through most of this thread.... I might have missed it, but I currently have a 2003 6.0L PSD. I am already putting out over 30lbs boost stock when runing on the highway and mashing the pedal to the floor. I do not want to add too much more boost to this.
Does the tuner just add boost on top of what the factory setup is making or does it map to a max boost level no matter the baseline? I knwo several of us have different baselines for our boost numbers. I am running an ISSPRO mech boost guage.
Also, I jsut read about the new 1805 version, what tire sizes will this adjust for? Thanks in advance.....
Does the tuner just add boost on top of what the factory setup is making or does it map to a max boost level no matter the baseline? I knwo several of us have different baselines for our boost numbers. I am running an ISSPRO mech boost guage.
Also, I jsut read about the new 1805 version, what tire sizes will this adjust for? Thanks in advance.....
The entire program is rewritten, superchips way.
Boost will vary a couple lbs from truck to truck because different gear, tire, weight, etc... change LOAD, which changes boost.
It is not a simple "addition", though.
It a completely rewritten stock program set to superchips parameters and limits.
HOWEVER, some trucks are still more tuneable than others, and superchips has different programs for different trucks and different stock calibrations.
Every tune is box code specific, so each tuner carries literally hundreds of different tunes, and there will be 3 engine files and 3 transmission files unique to your truck within the tuner.
For instance, 05+ trucks have a new piston design (lower compression).
For this reason, the 03's actually had more power potential.
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
What I'm trying to say is the 1704 had many changes throughout it's life, many revisions (not talking about Ford revisions).
Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
You could put 5 different 1704's on your truck, and if the 1704s have different production dates, they will all vary a little, even on the same truck.
Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
In the name of improvement/progress, tuner databases change overtime to add in new developments.
Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
If you had your tuner for a year without sending it back to superchips, your 1704 will differ slighly from a fresh out of production 1704.
Thanks for the thorough explanation. I'm sure it helps out a lot of people browsing the thread!
You don't happen to have an inside track on when the data logging might be coming online do you? ...or if it will support the performance logging I hope it will?
Thanks again!
Steve
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Originally Posted by Planecrazy
I understood that ... just figured that my 1704 was likely closer to current than one from two or three years ago.
Makes sense...
Just out of curiosity, how many changes were typical in a year (when you were there)? I kinda figured that Superchips would take a "don't fix it if it ain't broken" approach, with the exception of adding new files to adjust for new "Ford" flashes.
That's to be expected, of course.
Thanks for the thorough explanation. I'm sure it helps out a lot of people browsing the thread!
You don't happen to have an inside track on when the data logging might be coming online do you? ...or if it will support the performance logging I hope it will?
Thanks again!
Steve
Makes sense...
Just out of curiosity, how many changes were typical in a year (when you were there)? I kinda figured that Superchips would take a "don't fix it if it ain't broken" approach, with the exception of adding new files to adjust for new "Ford" flashes.
That's to be expected, of course.
Thanks for the thorough explanation. I'm sure it helps out a lot of people browsing the thread!
You don't happen to have an inside track on when the data logging might be coming online do you? ...or if it will support the performance logging I hope it will?
Thanks again!
Steve
As for the "Don't fix it if it ai't broke approach"...
I've NEVER been able to do this. I wish I could =o)
To me, its always broke, it can always be better, etc...
You also have to satisfy the majority of the masses, so if you get repeated feedback asking for a change, that change is usually looked at, tested, confirmed and a new revision is made.
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i run the 1704, my truck has been shifting poorly at wot. It shifts slow and has alot of overev during the shifts. will the 1704 work OK with a aftermarket trans or trans upgrades.
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Originally Posted by MxRacer32
i run the 1704, my truck has been shifting poorly at wot. It shifts slow and has alot of overev during the shifts. will the 1704 work OK with a aftermarket trans or trans upgrades.
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Originally Posted by MxRacer32
Last update was around eight months ago, I hope a update works out.
The 1704 should shift SLIGHTLY more firm than stock at part throttle and shift progressively harder as you approach WOT.
How does your truck shift stock (with no tuner in it whatsoever)?
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I just recieved a couple letters from Ford today regarding program#05B35 calling for what I assume is a new flash to get the "latest software" On two of our trucks and am expecting I will get a third notice for another as they were purchased about the same time. Should I remove the 1704A(purchased 06/05) program and get it done? Will the SCT work after the reflash? I am very happy with the performance now but am always looking for better mpg.
