That's what I used to think. But it was one line in the owners manual that caught my attention. "This information may be recorded during regular operations or in a crash or near crash event." It was the "regular operation" part that caught my attention. That line and a comment that Ford_Doctor made that there were ways that a tuner, even after being removed could be detected that made me wonder. It just a thought. I've had some free time lately. If you get a chance read carefully the data recording section in the Owner's Guide.

 

Duanne, I had the same noise problem you described earlier in the thread, scraping or rubbing when u let off of the accelerator and when going uphill. I took the truck it and was able to duplicate the noise for the diesel mech on a ride=along. The truck got a new flash (this was back in May) and the noise went away and never came back.

 

i have a problem with my 2005 6.0 liter. when i have the chip in and your crusing on the highway at certain conditions the trucks seems like its missing, everytime it misses the boost gauge drops down to zero and then back up.... has anyone had this same problem?

 

Yes, that was my problem too right before the Turbo self destructed. They replaced it and I still had wasn't happy so Ford tore down the engine and decided to replace the it (11000 mi.) I got the truck back on Friday, Saturday I hooked up my horse trailer, empty about 3500lb and headed North. I got about 75 miles and my turbo went out again. I limped home at 40 mpg and a smoke cloud that threatened the ozone layer.

The truck is going back to Ford again tomorrow and I am going to demand a new truck. This is the fifth time it has broken down and stranded me.

 

Pardon me for posing this question after all the aggravation you've dealt with, but if Ford replaced the engine on Friday and you hooked up a 3500 pound trailer on Saturday, when did "break-in" occur on the new engine?? The truck might have 11000 miles on it, but presumably the "new" engine had 0.

Unless I misread what you wrote above it sounds like you failed to properly break-in a new engine, and killed the turbo with improper use from "day one." Ford may be responsible for all the other problems you experienced to date, but it sounds like you might have killed this one all by yourself by creating a situation where fresh engine filings could have gone the "wrong" way out the exhaust and killed the turbo.

If I somehow missed something I apologize, but it seems like in this case that user error caused your latest problem. Hope it all works out!

Steve

 

I asked Ford when I picked it up about towing the trailer and they said ok. They said since it is very light just to vary my speed which I did. That is the only breakin that they said it needs. Also if you want to blame the weight for the damage how about a vehicle like a motorhome that weighs more than my truck and trailer combined. How would you break that in when it is new.

 

I'm wasn't suggesting that the weight caused the damage ... only that most vehicle break-in's don't include trailer towing, or for that matter, anything that places unusual stress on a brand new motor. Anyway, it sounds as if you covered your bases with Ford on this one by asking, so as long as they gave you the green light I won't argue the point.

As far as motorhome break-in is concerned, I don't know how or what each manufacturer recommends, but I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of break-in is done on the engine before the motorhome is fully finished. Crate motor manufacturers, for example, specify that their motors are run for a certain (albeit short) period of time before the vehicle is ever put into gear. Some powertrain manufacturers break-in their motors before they ever leave the factory.

Sounds like you have a legitimate beef with Ford and, like I said, I hope it gets worked out satisfactorily!

Steve

 

3500pound is not enough wieght to cause damage. My F550 had a 3300pound dump box put on from the dealer with only 21klm on the dial. Plus if the engine failed again so soon, why would weight be a factor for the turbo to go so quickly again.

 

There is no need to use the "Quote" function when replying to a post directly above...unless you need to pull one sentence out of the post....Thank you!

 

Tim,

I almost always pull quotes when replying, because I've found in the past that sometimes people will edit their original posts and completely change the context of what I've replied to. Quoting the text I'm responding to ensures that nobody misinterprets or fails to understand what might become a nonsensical post otherwise.

I've been burned by this in the past, so better safe than sorry, thanks!

Steve

 

Weight would be a potential factor only in so much as the amount of "throttle" being used to move a given weight increases as the weight increases. So if "break-in" requires mild to moderate application of throttle for a given number of miles and you throw more weight into the mix, you're going to wind up using more throttle than you would otherwise. This could put extra stress on the new parts and cause them to fail prematurely.

In the case of the turbo, I merely guessed that a brand new engine being subjected to higher than recommended throttle might throw metal shavings where they shouldn't be going ... into the turbo blades. Unlikely, but possible... The other factor is that somebody with a broken-in truck (11000 miles) doesn't automatically remember that there's a new motor under the hood. Sure, you know it's there, but it's not like getting into a completely new vehicle for the first time and continually remembering to "take it easy" on the new motor.

Now add the possiblity that an SCMT was involved and you can easily see where proper break-in procedures could have been ignored, without the owner even realizing he/she was forgetting something important...

My .02
Steve

 

The other factor is that somebody with a broken-in truck (11000 miles) doesn't automatically remember that there's a new motor under the hood. Sure, you know it's there, but it's not like getting into a completely new vehicle for the first time and continually remembering to "take it easy" on the new motor.

Now add the possiblity that an SCMT was involved and you can easily see where proper break-in procedures could have been ignored, without the owner even realizing he/she was forgetting something important...


The SCMT was not involved and Ford fixed the Turbo by replacing a clamp that had broken and the hose came off. It had nothing to do with the way the truck was driven of amount of weight on the truck. I was very aware of the new motor in the truck and drove it very carefully.

 

I figured as much ... glad this turned out to be a non-catastrophic problem -- hopefully the new motor will live up to your expectations!

Good Luck!!
Steve

 

Members can only edit for sixty minutes after they post …so how could this happen, they cannot edit your post?

 

I wasn't aware of this "safety," Tim ... I should have clarified ... This has happened to me in the past on a different forum that I have thousands of posts on. We can edit our posts indefinitely over there, and that's where I learned it was best to "quote" the passage I was responding to. Obviously others cannot edit MY posts, and that is why I learned to include THEIR quotes in my posts to protect the context of what I was saying.

In all fairness you DID strip out a quote from my original response that was only a small part of the post I was responding to. As I recall I had pulled two sentences out of a larger paragraph (as you suggested was acceptable when you brought this to our attention).

I will try to remember in the future NOT to automatically pull quotes here.

Regards,
Steve